Sugar Ray Robinson's jump in weight, amazing.
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If you you know nothing about Methods & Techniques then your opinion about whose better than someone else is meaningless!
If you know nothing about form and style in offense and defense then you know nothing about boxing. The thought that current fighters are automaticly better than past fighters is just ignorant! Talent prevails over mediocrity and willingness will supersede "trying"!
Robinson KO's Mayweather or Pacman and it won't take long!!!
The bottom line to begin with is respect and that's gained with your punch!
Neither Pac or Floyd come close to Robinsons power and the size alone is so one sided its ridiculous at that weight.
Floyd 5'7"
Pac 5' 6"
Sugar Ray 5' 11"
......his body is superior in every way and as to weights we all weighed in far below our established weights when you start boxing in your teens. Robinsons meaningful bouts with good competition stated at 130lbs! Those are teens not twenties!
If you study form with proper angles of foot placement and arm angles as punches are d3elivered you'd start to understand why Robinson is considered the ATG!
When he landed power the arms were still at 45d to 90d not extended the way fighter today punch. The fighters today are from the amateur stylings that developed in the 70's. You hit your opponent with full extension so you scored and in turn were out of harms way! That's amateur boxing not pros!
Pacs pitter patter against Robinson would be laughable! Floyd backing off to go to the ropes and use his shoulder roll gets him KO'd. Robinson Ko'd fighters that would beat Floyd, Mayweather is the greatest "matchmaker ever" unfortunately for himself with careful considerations hahahaha!!!!
You kids will believe what you want I couldn't give a snakes azz but it sure helps your opinions when you actually know something about fighting within the sport of boxing. Robinso did both at the highest level.
Ray.
methods and techniques eh, you sure know your boxing very wellComment
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At 16 years old, Manny Pacquiao, Floyd Mayweather, and Sugar Ray Robinson were flyweights. Manny was fighting as an underage professional. Mayweather and Robinson were taking the Golden Gloves championships.
Pacquiao went up to 150
Mayweather went up to 154 (Could he make 160?)
Sugar Ray went up to 175 (made the move to 175 to challenge Joey Maxim for the title)
Although Sugar Ray is the tallest of all, he still made a move of up to 60 pounds if he did weigh in at the 175 limit.
not worried much about Mayweathers they can't readComment
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oh hi there dead merry christmas, describing Pac's punch as pitter patter is what I am reacting to. and I am a SRR fan. you may have notice I don't subscribe to fantasy fighting who beats who threads because that's how those threads are just fantasy.Comment
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Could be, I'll probably find out when I dwell deeper in this book now that Christmas is over. Although I would think he came in lighter, since thats what they did back then. Would possibly explain why Robinson couldn't come out for 15th against a naturally bigger man.Comment
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They were great fighters but still the defensive wizards of the modern era were better. Im also not a historian so I cant talk about all of those fighters, but even the defensive wizards would kind of trudge and Pep got his azz whooped by Sadler. He didnt know how to get down and dirty.Comment
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If you you know nothing about Methods & Techniques then your opinion about whose better than someone else is meaningless!
If you know nothing about form and style in offense and defense then you know nothing about boxing. The thought that current fighters are automaticly better than past fighters is just ignorant! Talent prevails over mediocrity and willingness will supersede "trying"!
Robinson KO's Mayweather or Pacman and it won't take long!!!
The bottom line to begin with is respect and that's gained with your punch!
Neither Pac or Floyd come close to Robinsons power and the size alone is so one sided its ridiculous at that weight.
Floyd 5'7"
Pac 5' 6"
Sugar Ray 5' 11"
......his body is superior in every way and as to weights we all weighed in far below our established weights when you start boxing in your teens. Robinsons meaningful bouts with good competition stated at 130lbs! Those are teens not twenties!
If you study form with proper angles of foot placement and arm angles as punches are d3elivered you'd start to understand why Robinson is considered the ATG!
When he landed power the arms were still at 45d to 90d not extended the way fighter today punch. The fighters today are from the amateur stylings that developed in the 70's. You hit your opponent with full extension so you scored and in turn were out of harms way! That's amateur boxing not pros!
Pacs pitter patter against Robinson would be laughable! Floyd backing off to go to the ropes and use his shoulder roll gets him KO'd. Robinson Ko'd fighters that would beat Floyd, Mayweather is the greatest "matchmaker ever" unfortunately for himself with careful considerations hahahaha!!!!
You kids will believe what you want I couldn't give a snakes azz but it sure helps your opinions when you actually know something about fighting within the sport of boxing. Robinso did both at the highest level.
Ray.
And we not going to talk about Floyd because Ray used to be such a sloppy bum but in his era he was looked at as the best. We wouldnt even be impressed by him in this era after seeing fighters like Pac and Floyd. I think Pac would damage SRR for his mistakes.
I think Floyd would put on a masterpiece.
And dude u said Pac's "Pitter patter" Bro do you know how much blood would leak from SRR? LOL
Floyd aint even got to go to the ropes, he can go to the pocket, ropes, outside, inside, counter, lead. How do you matchmake by fighting all these different styles and completely changing your style to dominate them without getting grazed?
If SRR fought Floyd's foes, he would have a plus minus of 30? Which is the TOP THREE PLUS MINUS IN BOXING HISTORY??Last edited by MurkaMan; 12-26-2014, 04:52 AM.Comment
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