Sugar Ray Robinson's jump in weight, amazing.

[MurkaMan]

Could be, I'll probably find out when I dwell deeper in this book now that Christmas is over. Although I would think he came in lighter, since thats what they did back then. Would possibly explain why Robinson couldn't come out for 15th against a naturally bigger man.

Every Floyd fight, he is at an age disadvantage and a 15lb weight disadvantage and makes them look ordinary.

[Rath]

were you offended that he said Robinson beats Pac? you should feel enlightened.

why would I be offended? SRR beats Pac any day of the week. but saying Pac would be pitter pattering SRR is not true. show me a fight where Pac pitter patters his opponent?

[soul_survivor]

What would be good comparisons then? Robinson to Armstrong? Robinson to Duran?

oops, my bad, I was supposed to say that's NOT what I'm calling a bad comparison. Not the careers of the guys you named but how they advanced in weight throughout their careers.

Robinson never weight in below 135lb in his professional career, you can't compare a 16 year old, under developed kid who was an amateur and say he started his career at bantam or superfly or whatever.

By the time Robinson turned pro, he was 5'11'' and a lightweight although he fought at 140 and 147 many times before his eventual title shot at welterweight. Robinson was never anything less than a lightweight as a professional and the vast majority of his career was spent at 147-160. In terms of size, he can not and should not be compared to Floyd or Manny in any way shape or form.

[Rath]

Every Floyd fight, he is at an age disadvantage and a 15lb weight disadvantage and makes them look ordinary.

we hope you never end up a boxing historian 20 30 yrs from now or the next generation of boxing fans all be damned

[MurkaMan]

we hope you never end up a boxing historian 20 30 yrs from now or the next generation of boxing fans all be damned

You just highlighted 100% facts LOL. I didnt even type one opinion u dummy!

[fabie]

Robinson's lean frame and size - there's a lot to fill there very similar to Tommy Hearns that he went on to even Light Heavyweight. Pacquiao and Mayweather maximized their frame at their current weight right now.

[VG_Addict]

OK Murka, watch this video and tell us again how Robinson was a bum:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFCE6UBA8RE

[JasonBoxing]

SRR was so much of a BUM this dude ******. He lost to Jake Lommata do you know what Pac would do to that man?

And we not going to talk about Floyd because Ray used to be such a sloppy bum but in his era he was looked at as the best. We wouldnt even be impressed by him in this era after seeing fighters like Pac and Floyd. I think Pac would damage SRR for his mistakes.

I think Floyd would put on a masterpiece.

And dude u said Pac's "Pitter patter" Bro do you know how much blood would leak from SRR? LOL

Floyd aint even got to go to the ropes, he can go to the pocket, ropes, outside, inside, counter, lead. How do you matchmake by fighting all these different styles and completely changing your style to dominate them without getting grazed?

If SRR fought Floyd's foes, he would have a plus minus of 30? Which is the TOP THREE PLUS MINUS IN BOXING HISTORY??

nobody cares about plus minus in boxing. I bet you post on basketball forums don't you?

Wladimir Klitschko have a greater Plus Minus than Prime Muhammad Ali.
So Klitschko >than Ali right? I asked you a question.

[JasonBoxing]

You just highlighted 100% facts LOL. I didnt even type one opinion u dummy!

Here is another fact. White Boy Wladimir Klitschko have a greater plus minus than Tyson and Ali. So just say it. WHITE BOY Wladimir >than African-Americans Tyson and Ali. Come on bro say it. Say it. Since you say Plus Minus matters(when it very clearly doesn't).
Since you have to take into account caliber of opponents. Something you don't have to do in basketball. Since the talent pool have generally remained the same throughout the decades.

[Wuckoo]

Ray began his career atg lightweight but event till it's impressive. But willie pep even remembers once as an amateur fighting him when he weighed in at 128lbs