Sugar Ray Robinson's jump in weight, amazing.

[Jim Jeffries]

Hard to picture Robinson as a flyweight, unless he had a serious growth spurt after 16.

[AngelOfWallSt]

Hard to picture Robinson as a flyweight, unless he had a serious growth spurt after 16.

Very true. If this was accomplished (I have no evidence to discredit it), that's a truely amazing accomplishment by SRR

[SlySlickSmooth]

Hard to picture Robinson as a flyweight, unless he had a serious growth spurt after 16.

I would assume he wasn't too big in muscle mass at the time, tall and lengthy. 1935/1936-1937 would be his flyweight years. My first post is incorrect actually, he won his Golden Gloves at Bantamweight two years later in 1938.

But the name Ray Robinson was from another flyweight fighter that had left his team, his manager still had his card and used it to enter Sugar Ray (then Walker Smith Jr.) into his first fight.

16 year old Sugar Ray:

[soul_survivor]

At 16 years old, Manny Pacquiao, Floyd Mayweather, and Sugar Ray Robinson were flyweights. Manny was fighting as an underage professional. Mayweather and Robinson were taking the Golden Gloves championships.

Pacquiao went up to 150
Mayweather went up to 154 (Could he make 160?)
Sugar Ray went up to 175 (made the move to 175 to challenge Joey Maxim for the title)

Although Sugar Ray is the tallest of all, he still made a move of up to 60 pounds if he did weigh in at the 175 limit.

That's great and Robinson was a truly supreme fighter but this comparison is plain ******.

[VG_Addict]

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! Are you serious going to talk about that old outdated azz fighter? Im no fan of SRL, but even HE is better than SRR's bumazz. SRL had a plus minus of 15, while Floyd had a plus minus of 30! Ward had a plus minus of 15, and SRL is faster than Ward. Basically Ward would be the top dog in SRL's era and SRL is WAAAAY better than SRR.

Boxing has evolved. The popular thing to do is to overexaggerate about these old dusty azz fighters who fought in the 1500's LOL.

Boy if Jake Lomotta smashed SRR do you know what Pacman would do to that man? Stop lying about these past ATG's. I just got through talking about this on a previous post. It makes me SICK when you all lie about past ATG's, and SRR???

Bro in his era they used to stand like rockem sockem robots when they fought, and they would slowly trudge around the ring GTFO!!

Dudes used to fight like Popeye lol

Watch Willie Pep, Jersey Joe Walcott, Gene Tunney, and Benny Leonard.

[SlySlickSmooth]

That's great and Robinson was a truly supreme fighter but this comparison is plain ******.

I wasn't comparing their careers. Just to show an example of where Robinson stood, not how good May/Pac are compared to Robinson.

[soul_survivor]

I wasn't comparing their careers. Just to show an example of where Robinson stood, not how good May/Pac are compared to Robinson.

Yeah and that's what I'm calling a ****** comparison

[SlySlickSmooth]

Yeah and that's what I'm calling a ****** comparison

What would be good comparisons then? Robinson to Armstrong? Robinson to Duran?

[Unseen]

I'm of the thought that many old school fighters were on drugs.

[Ray Corso]

If you you know nothing about Methods & Techniques then your opinion about whose better than someone else is meaningless!
If you know nothing about form and style in offense and defense then you know nothing about boxing. The thought that current fighters are automaticly better than past fighters is just ignorant! Talent prevails over mediocrity and willingness will supersede "trying"!
Robinson KO's Mayweather or Pacman and it won't take long!!!
The bottom line to begin with is respect and that's gained with your punch!
Neither Pac or Floyd come close to Robinsons power and the size alone is so one sided its ridiculous at that weight.
Floyd 5'7"
Pac 5' 6"
Sugar Ray 5' 11"

......his body is superior in every way and as to weights we all weighed in far below our established weights when you start boxing in your teens. Robinsons meaningful bouts with good competition stated at 130lbs! Those are teens not twenties!
If you study form with proper angles of foot placement and arm angles as punches are d3elivered you'd start to understand why Robinson is considered the ATG!
When he landed power the arms were still at 45d to 90d not extended the way fighter today punch. The fighters today are from the amateur stylings that developed in the 70's. You hit your opponent with full extension so you scored and in turn were out of harms way! That's amateur boxing not pros!

Pacs pitter patter against Robinson would be laughable! Floyd backing off to go to the ropes and use his shoulder roll gets him KO'd. Robinson Ko'd fighters that would beat Floyd, Mayweather is the greatest "matchmaker ever" unfortunately for himself with careful considerations hahahaha!!!!

You kids will believe what you want I couldn't give a snakes azz but it sure helps your opinions when you actually know something about fighting within the sport of boxing. Robinso did both at the highest level.
Ray.