Sugar Ray Robinson's jump in weight, amazing.

[MurkaMan]

Based on this it seems you have watched very little of SSR. Maybe you should watch more of him and you might agree with the other 99% of boxing fans.
You claim to know a lot about floyd and compare the two but why do it if you don't have the knowledge to do it properly!!

Are you one of those who think floyd's 47-0 is great?

Thats because 99% of boxing fans have a habit of lying about how good the past ATG's were. How many times do you see people lying about how SRR would blast Manny and Floyd? Anyone who KNOWS boxing knows that boxing has evolved so much that if that man stepped in the ring with Floyd it would be humiliating and if he got all those problems from Jake, then Pacman would bluddy this dude.

He fought in the 1500's back then they used to fight like rockem sockem robots with their shoulders all hunched up, plodding like they had on timberland boots in the ring. Dude used to fight in a karate stance lookin like he was about to kick somebody lol.

I feel Floyd's record is impressive, but I the reason I rank Floyd top 3 of all time is not because of his record. Its because of his skills. Their is no fighter in history that can fight his "cherries" change their entire fighting style 47 times, and dominate each opponent without being grazed and make it out of the ring with a plus minus of 30! Floyd had the top 3 plus minus in boxing history.

His skillset is just otherworldly to me and Im not one of these boxing fans who will talk bad about Floyd just because its the popular thing to do. He been doing good and I have to commend him.

People try to make it seem like his legacy revolves around Pac. Its bad that he didnt fight Pac, but even without Pac he has been fighting some big o'l young dangerous guys and making them look STOOPID. Its a shame that he dont really get the credit he deserves. I blame the boxing community for pretending like boxing revolved around Floyd and Pacman. Without them fighting eachother, their was still ALLOT of opponents for them both to face and Floyd fought them all while Pac STILL hasnt fought any credible foes at the higher weights. But I still think Pacman would blast some of these outdated azzz past fighters!

[Wuckoo]

Srr was not a plodding fighter I.e. Someone who floyd would love to fight. He was fast, something floyd would hate. He had power, a risk to anyone. He was conditioned to throw nonstop for 15 rounds and he was known to have good footwork.

You are clearly just trolling, if not then you are a very ignorant floyd fan. I guys like cotto or Judah gave mayweather trouble how do you think srr would fare? A thread gets made about an atg who fought multiple times a year (more than someone who fights only twice a year) and you bring floyd into it because you can't stand someone else getting attention? Gtfo

[GoldenGloveLove]

TBE. #hardworkdedication

[MurkaMan]

Srr was not a plodding fighter I.e. Someone who floyd would love to fight. He was fast, something floyd would hate. He had power, a risk to anyone. He was conditioned to throw nonstop for 15 rounds and he was known to have good footwork.

You are clearly just trolling, if not then you are a very ignorant floyd fan. I guys like cotto or Judah gave mayweather trouble how do you think srr would fare? A thread gets made about an atg who fought multiple times a year (more than someone who fights only twice a year) and you bring floyd into it because you can't stand someone else getting attention? Gtfo

Floyd wouldnt even look at SRR as a threat bro lol. We saw the Jake Lomatta fight. And SRR fought so many bums its amazing.

I am not a Flowwwmo but I am also not going to pretend that Floyd isnt as good as he actually is. Floyd has a handfull of fights where he even got TOUCHED. But you use those few instances to say he would lose to a fighter of SRR's caliber when he got touched in ALL of his fights.

Lets not even talk about Floyd. Pacman would demolish SRR. Pac aint no Damn Jake Lomatta. Boxing has evolved.

[VG_Addict]

Floyd wouldnt even look at SRR as a threat bro lol. We saw the Jake Lomatta fight. And SRR fought so many bums its amazing.

I am not a Flowwwmo but I am also not going to pretend that Floyd isnt as good as he actually is. Floyd has a handfull of fights where he even got TOUCHED. But you use those few instances to say he would lose to a fighter of SRR's caliber when he got touched in ALL of his fights.

Lets not even talk about Floyd. Pacman would demolish SRR. Pac aint no Damn Jake Lomatta. Boxing has evolved.

Robinson had better fundamentals than Pacquiao. Pacquiao has poor balance, drops his hands when he punches, and tends to lunge.

[soul_survivor]

oops, my bad, I was supposed to say that's NOT what I'm calling a bad comparison. Not the careers of the guys you named but how they advanced in weight throughout their careers.

Robinson never weight in below 135lb in his professional career, you can't compare a 16 year old, under developed kid who was an amateur and say he started his career at bantam or superfly or whatever.

By the time Robinson turned pro, he was 5'11'' and a lightweight although he fought at 140 and 147 many times before his eventual title shot at welterweight. Robinson was never anything less than a lightweight as a professional and the vast majority of his career was spent at 147-160. In terms of size, he can not and should not be compared to Floyd or Manny in any way shape or form.

Still no reply to this bit of truth ?

[MurkaMan]

Robinson had better fundamentals than Pacquiao. Pacquiao has poor balance, drops his hands when he punches, and tends to lunge.

Styles make fights and Pacman is something that Robinson probably never knew existed IDGAF if Pac drops his hands or anything. Pacman would be moving all over this man like clockwork.

Thats not a competitive match up either, so why sit up here and try to FIND a way for Robinson to win? Just because he fought in the past? If he fought in this era and his name was Jimmy Johnson its NO WAY you would pick a fighter of that caliber to beat Pac. Its all D-Riding solely because he is a past ATG fighter.

[greeh]

Styles make fights and Pacman is something that Robinson probably never knew existed IDGAF if Pac drops his hands or anything. Pacman would be moving all over this man like clockwork.

Thats not a competitive match up either, so why sit up here and try to FIND a way for Robinson to win? Just because he fought in the past? If he fought in this era and his name was Jimmy Johnson its NO WAY you would pick a fighter of that caliber to beat Pac. Its all D-Riding solely because he is a past ATG fighter.

What the **** is the matter with you?

[MurkaMan]

What the **** is the matter with you?

You have to actually read my comments. As I have said plenty of times, I am NOT going to lie about the past ATG's just because thats what YOU ALL do. I am going to be HONEST about how good they REALLY were. Boxing has evolved and I am not afraid to say that. Get over it and start being honest withchaself!!

[Wuckoo]

You have to actually read my comments. As I have said plenty of times, I am NOT going to lie about the past ATG's just because thats what YOU ALL do. I am going to be HONEST about how good they REALLY were. Boxing has evolved and I am not afraid to say that. Get over it and start being honest withchaself!!

While I agree boxing has evolved and some past fighters are overrated (eg. Dempsey) but when you watch footage of fighters like pep, Moore and Robinson you see how skilled they are. Robinson only lost once to Lamotta (which is how you spell it) and he beat him more than he lost. He fought three times a month sometimes and beat Lamotta in their rematch three weeks after losing at first. And floyd has clearly been touched before. Corrales, de la Hoya, maidana and cotto to name a few. You must just be trolling. It's boxing, you never go a whole fight without getting touched at some point.

Overall, I at least agree that some people automatically overrate past atgs but guys like pep, Robinson and Moore could fight in any era because their fundamentals were so good.