Sugar Ray Robinson's jump in weight, amazing.

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  • Wuckoo
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    #111
    Originally posted by Ray Corso
    I prefer a "Cinnamon Roll" over Archie's Moores "shoulder roll"!
    Lil' Floyd invented "fooling the novice public" not the shoulder roll!

    Shoulder roll was used 80 years ago by every inside fighter born.

    Who's this kid elroys sisters? "peeleft: another fool............
    No but Ray you don't understand it's floyd's now. We don't want to talk to him like he is stoopid. Floyd would have easily lasted in the 40s and 50s where you had to fight sometimes 4 times a month just to survive or stay relevant. Any opinions from experienced individuals like foreman, Jones, Tyson or even yourself are irrelevant. Floyd made the shoulder roll his, even though he doesn't use it that much. Come on, it's not like it was called the Philly roll or anything like that. Archie Moore? Please. Floyd would have easily lasted with someone who fought people heavy af and young as hell and fought into his 40s.

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      #112
      Originally posted by meme_man
      Marcos was not top 3.
      You could even argue that gatti and Guerrero weren't top three. In fact, and don't tell anyone else, you could even say that marquez was not too 3 at welter when floyd fought him.

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      • MurkaMan
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        #113
        Originally posted by Ray Corso
        I prefer a "Cinnamon Roll" over Archie's Moores "shoulder roll"!
        Lil' Floyd invented "fooling the novice public" not the shoulder roll!

        Shoulder roll was used 80 years ago by every inside fighter born.

        Who's this kid elroys sisters? "peeleft: another fool............
        And perfected by Floyd. The shoulder roll is Floyd's IFGAF WHO used it before him. He's a master of it are you kidding me? lol

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          #114
          Originally posted by meme_man
          Marcos was not top 3.
          Wasnt he top 3 in the belt organization he fought for? Besides that him beating Broner, who was a big up and coming star made him the best out their outside of Pac.

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          • MurkaMan
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            #115
            Originally posted by Psylence83
            Truth??? Lol
            Helll yea read my comments. I dont lie about past ATG's like you all do, and I dont talk bad about Floyd just because its the popular thing to do. You have a pic of SRR you aint got no room to talk.

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            • MurkaMan
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              #116
              Originally posted by Psylence83
              You even posted saying you haven't seen that much of SSR. But yet call him a bum. The short vid someone posted you even said you don't know who the other guy was and didn't know if he was good or a bum.

              .....which was rocky graziano. Former middleweight champion. Had a large KO% ratio and considered in the top 25 best punchers!!!!

              Your actually owning yourself! Educate yourself before posting and sounding like a idiot!!!
              I know SRR was a bum and I have seen him fight thats the reason I talk bad about him because he wasnt a good fighter. He barely fought top opposition.

              I dont care who he was fighting in the video. Im not a historian that read a bunch of boxing books. I actually WATCH boxing and I know skills.

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                #117
                Originally posted by Wuckoo
                It's funny because he used the plus minus stuff to justify floyd being great, misspelled Lennox and openly said he hadn't seen much joe Louis. I have no problem with people doubting the skills of people like Robinson, graziano or leonard but when they blatantly haven't watched any footage that's when I get annoyed. But this guy is just a troll. Plain and simple
                Stop lyin. I have seen ALL of them fight I just havent read every single boxing books to know every single detail about them. And Joe lous used to slip, counter, he was fast af and his plus minus was top 3 in boxing history.

                You can lie and say Im a troll all you want but I know boxing. If you have no problem with me being honest about their skillset then why are you even in the argument?

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                  #118
                  Originally posted by MurkaMan
                  And perfected by Floyd. The shoulder roll is Floyd's IFGAF WHO used it before him. He's a master of it are you kidding me? lol
                  Yeah man i feel ya. When people try to throw left hooks I get mad because danny has perfected it. It's his now!

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                    #119
                    Originally posted by MurkaMan
                    Stop lyin. I have seen ALL of them fight I just havent read every single boxing books to know every single detail about them. And Joe lous used to slip, counter, he was fast af and his plus minus was top 3 in boxing history.

                    You can lie and say Im a troll all you want but I know boxing. If you have no problem with me being honest about their skillset then why are you even in the argument?
                    Yeah man that bum of the month club he had was great. Fought top opposition all the time, lost to schmelling and avenged it later but if schmelling gave him that trouble he would struggle with today's boxers

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                      #120
                      Originally posted by Wuckoo
                      Yeah man i feel ya. When people try to throw left hooks I get mad because danny has perfected it. It's his now!
                      1. Danny aint perfect no damnn left hook and he isnt the best in HISTORY at throwing it lol

                      2. Floyd MASTERED the shoulder roll and he is the best in HISTORY with it. Give it up, it belongs to HIM at this point.

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