How did Floyd ever become boxing's top earner???

[blacraven]

You have got to have a very good understanding of boxing to fully understand what a rare talent he is , he does things in a boxing ring that are so subtle so brilliant that most fans dont even see it , he is an amazing fighter , this is why trainers and fighters are in awe of him , the opinions of hating fanboys dont mean sht , children dont buy fights , adults with a brain buy fights .

Floyd is Micheal Jordon , Kelly Slater and Tiger Woods all rolled up in one .

Too lazy to comment so, This^^^^^^^^^^^

Thank you sir,
Your a gentleman and a scholar and one day I'm gonna dance at your wedding.

[tangalog2200]

Spinoff from the Roy Jones thread...

How in the hell did Floyd become so popular???

We agree that by all accounts, to casuals he should be boring as hell inside the ring. Defensive style, doesnt go for the KO, no power, most of his fights are one-sided, throws one punch at a time, puts viewers to sleep...

Career wise, he more known today for his cherry picking ways then giving the fans the fights we want. A Pac fight isnt the first time Floyd refused to give the fans what we want. And he aint the first the first guy to beat Hoya. Shane got to a higher level when he did that but never close to what Floyd is.

Outside the ring, the guy is a complete mess. He cant express himself, is socially awkward, is not enigmatic or self-aware, most people dont a have a single good thing to say about him, I can go on and on before we even get to his criminal record.

Yes he flashes money and that might make a reality tv episode interesting. One episode. Is that all??? If Rigo started throwing money around would HBO want him back on air?

I honestly dont get it. It makes no sense.

So how do ya'll think he made it to the top?

media did help him attain that....

floyd's status is a media creation....

[tank17211]

Spinoff from the Roy Jones thread...

How in the hell did Floyd become so popular???

We agree that by all accounts, to casuals he should be boring as hell inside the ring. Defensive style, doesnt go for the KO, no power, most of his fights are one-sided, throws one punch at a time, puts viewers to sleep...

Career wise, he more known today for his cherry picking ways then giving the fans the fights we want. A Pac fight isnt the first time Floyd refused to give the fans what we want. And he aint the first the first guy to beat Hoya. Shane got to a higher level when he did that but never close to what Floyd is.

Outside the ring, the guy is a complete mess. He cant express himself, is socially awkward, is not enigmatic or self-aware, most people dont a have a single good thing to say about him, I can go on and on before we even get to his criminal record.

Yes he flashes money and that might make a reality tv episode interesting. One episode. Is that all??? If Rigo started throwing money around would HBO want him back on air?

I honestly dont get it. It makes no sense.

So how do ya'll think he made it to the top?

3 words. Oscar De la Hoya.

[12TRIBEsRiSe]

Spinoff from the Roy Jones thread...

How in the hell did Floyd become so popular???

We agree that by all accounts, to casuals he should be boring as hell inside the ring. Defensive style, doesnt go for the KO, no power, most of his fights are one-sided, throws one punch at a time, puts viewers to sleep...

Career wise, he more known today for his cherry picking ways then giving the fans the fights we want. A Pac fight isnt the first time Floyd refused to give the fans what we want. And he aint the first the first guy to beat Hoya. Shane got to a higher level when he did that but never close to what Floyd is.

Outside the ring, the guy is a complete mess. He cant express himself, is socially awkward, is not enigmatic or self-aware, most people dont a have a single good thing to say about him, I can go on and on before we even get to his criminal record.

Yes he flashes money and that might make a reality tv episode interesting. One episode. Is that all??? If Rigo started throwing money around would HBO want him back on air?

I honestly dont get it. It makes no sense.

So how do ya'll think he made it to the top?

by waking up to the corruption of boxing promoters, he opened the door for fighters to get paid, years ago it was unheard of for a WW to earn millions now all these guys are getting paid.... its good for boxing

and then there is this illuminati thing...

[AllBoxingAD]

Damn you must be a casual who just started watching Floyd after Oscar...he was a power puncher at the lower divisions..and his destruction of Gatti was his 1st ppv..but i wouldn't expect you to know about his was with Jesus Chavez..his 6 knock downs against Corrales or his brutal beating of Ndou..yea you never seen those fights..nor the beating he gave Manfredy..but yea he been boring his entire career right?

LMAO, this is a rethorical thread Larry. I thought it was obvious from the overly negative spin in every point I made.

You've never seen my posts before?

I wanted to see which posters would come in here and give Floyd due props, which posters would come in and hate, and what conspiracy theories posters would come up with.

[12TRIBEsRiSe]

media did help him attain that....

floyd's status is a media creation....

yep just like the image of alot of things in this country! the media is powerful good post

[mannyman]

Undefeated record
Clever marketing
Playing the bad guy (people wanna see him lose)
Social media
Al Haymon
24/7

Finally... ODLH was the catalyst - once Floyd beat him he was on his way.

[Khabash]

By beating every man they put in front of him and making certain fans pray for his downfall that will never occur.

[MayMosPeaHop]

but floyd didn't know his worth. i can prove this to you easily. he demanded 20 million when he was with arum to fight hoya. arum knew he wasn't worth that much. hoya knew he wasn't worth that much and so did floyd because he accepted 10 million to fight hoya after leaving. that's called pricing yourself out if you didn't know. floyd just wanted to leave top rank and arum let him because he knew floyd was being unreasonable and wouldn't have fought any of his guys like margarito. if you have the best fighter in the world but he won't fight then you don't have the best fighter in the world.

That is called knowing you will win the fight, take less, and reaping the benefits which he did. Arum's lack of vision has everything to do with FMJ not being with TR. And FMJ leaving, proved he was worth it. Again, numbers don't lie. FMJ would have blew up the same way with TR if Arum would have paid his best fighter accordingly. FMJ knew his worth and you are talking about ducking and not wanting to fight when Arum himself has disputed your claim. That is why I said stop making *****e up. Your last sentence is just silly.

[BoxingIsGreat]

If you look at how the American media has been marketing boxing, it has traditionally been mainly the heavyweight division's fighters who have been in the spotlight.

In the 1980s it was mainly Mike Tyson and Evander Holyfield, and in the 1990s it was also Rid**** Bowe and Lennox Lewis. However, in 2001 the Klitschkos had started to take over, and the American audience didn't respond to them, so the media turned to p4p-fighters instead.

Roy Jones Jr and Oscar de la Hoya were building their p4p-fame in the 1990s, and Roy was in the media spotlight until his losses in 2004, while Oscar's losses to Shane Mosley in 2003 and Bernard Hopkins in 2004 also reduced his popularity. In 2005 it was a vacuum where the media was struggling to find good American fighters.

After Roy's and Oscar's losses in 2004, Floyd was in 2005 catapulted to the p4p no 1, by the media, followed by Winky Wright as second. Manny was only no 5, because of his loss to Erik Morales in 2005. In the annual p4p-list of 2005 there were 5 Mexican fighters in the top 10 list, p4p, reflecting the miserable number of good American fighters.

The American media didn't have any American fighters to write about so it made Chris Byrd the world's number one heavyweight fighter of 2005, but when Chris lost to Wladimir in 2006 there was nobody.

However, down at Super-featherweight Manny Pacquiao won over Erik Morales twice in 2006, and there was potential for a media star. But Manny is not American and he is no Heavyweight fighter.

In 2007, the media and HBO blew the importance of the Oscar-Floyd fight out of all proportions. Oscar had numerous losses behind him and was a shadow of his prime-self, so it was basically an Exhibition-match. However, the American media and HBO had no other boxing fight to focus on so it was made into a huge spectacle.

Out of this spectacle came Floyd "Money" Mayweather, a skilled boxer with a new name. The media had a greater American boxer it could have focused on, Bernard Hopkins, but his losses to Jermain Taylor in 2005 indicated that he was passed his prime, so the media went with Floyd.

Ironically, when Floyd "retired" in 2007, the media was stuck with Manny being the most popular boxer, a foreigner in the Super-featherweight division. Luckily, Manny's willingness to please the audience saved boxing. He continued to excite the audience with brutal knockouts, also moving up to Welterweight where he was prepared to face anyone.

Meanwhile, Floyd returned in the end of 2009, wanting to claim the media's spotlight again.

The media followed both Floyd and Manny, but after Manny's loss on knockout to Juan Manuel in 2012 Floyd's value was expected to increase, so Showtime bought six of his fights for over $200 million. Just like expected Manny had lost followers, but he kept winning also over great opposition and soon the media started to call for a Floyd-Manny fight again.

Showtime was after four matches with Floyd stuck with a huge loss and the only way to recover the loss was to negotiate a fight between Manny and Floyd. So in 2015, Showtime will try to force Floyd to face Manny Pacquiao, who is by far the best fighter Floyd has ever faced. They might even try to force Floyd to fight Manny twice. Showtime is against the wall.

Manny doesn't need Floyd because he can face many interesting fighters at 140lbs, for example Mikey Garcia, Terence Crawford, Juan Manuel Marquez or some of Al Haymon's fighters who would love to fight him at this stage of his career.

Manny is naturally very small and enters the ring under 150lbs, so he would at this stage of his career be better off fighting boxers his own size. Terence Crawford was for example heavier in the ring at lightweight than Manny was at welterweight.

Floyd's resume is thin in comparison to for example Bernard Hopkins or Manny Pacquiao, because Floyd and Al Haymon always prioritized safety.

Al Haymon takes the credit for Floyd's fame, but with another manager Floyd could have been much more popular and also richer. Al Haymon focuses too much on Camp in his marketing, which has given Floyd a feminine persona. Constant theatricality and burlesque persona result in the public viewing Floyd as gay or mentally ******ed for acting as gay without being one. Maybe Al is acting out his own persona through Floyd and having Floyd thanking him so often, really emphasises how mentally dependent Floyd is on him.

In the negotiation for a fight in 2015, Floyd and Showtime claim that they are the A-side, but since Manny and HBO don't need the fight, they could easily claim 50%.

Floyd will be remembered for his skills, and Manny will be remembered for his legacy. Both Floyd and Manny were lucky to get the media's spotlight when there were few other great American fighters available.


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Your post is full of ****tt and selective. If you are gonna analyze his career, do it right, without skipping his prominent weights and the hard road he's taken to the top. Otherwise, go hang out with the Filipino from the UK who likes to sniff Floyd and his fans' asses. Overall, an F post. Next time, do more research.