How did Floyd ever become boxing's top earner???

[Boxing1836]

floyd has been able to sell himself based on the way he marketed himself, he acts like a tool, stays undefeated and brags about it, and people hope he loses. Truth be told that is starting to wear thin on people, and if doesn't fight pac next, and he fights lets say khan or garcia? he is looking at a lot lower buys than he usually expects.

[Real King Kong]

Short answer...people are ******. Btw what exactly were the fights other than pac that everyone wanted and didn't get made? I hear this all the time but nobody ever names any.

[Boxing1836]

Short answer...people are ******. Btw what exactly were the fights other than pac that everyone wanted and didn't get made? I hear this all the time but nobody ever names any.

pac is big enough on its own, but cotto and margarito before they went through wars is what people usually say.

[FeFist]

Believe it or not, some people are in awe over what he can/could do in the ring. Some obviously want to see him get clipped, but there are many casuals who believe he is the best at what he does.

[mezoomozaa]

He was made popular "fake popularity", he was well marketed to the american audience, hungry to any champion , at the age of crisis in Heavyweight division since Tyson retirement.

I don't believe that Mayweather has the tools to be the face of American boxing, in or out the ring. but when I look at all aspects of American entertainment " Cinema, sports, Music, .... even **** " the case is no different, there is serious scarcity of real talents and charisma. they are all fake and marketed to be popular.

I'm not American and I'm too young to say I miss USA of 1960s,1970s and 80s, but when I look back through reading or watching, I really miss those times, specially 60s!

[antrecasner]

For me it's one of two reasons. Some truly appreciate his boxing genius and some hate him and really want to see him lose.

[OutClassed]

self-proclaimed ATG(better than Ali, Better than SRL)
people pay to see him lose
those people are fans of fighters floyd beat via chicken style boxing marathon

[HanzGruber]

self-proclaimed ATG(better than Ali, Better than SRL)
people pay to see him lose
those people are fans of fighters floyd beat via chicken style boxing marathon

He didn't call himself tbe till the canelo fight. Hell arum once said he's the best fighter since Ali lol

[Philantro]

Spinoff from the Roy Jones thread...

How in the hell did Floyd become so popular???

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I honestly dont get it. It makes no sense.

So how do ya'll think he made it to the top?

If you look at how the American media has been marketing boxing, it has traditionally been mainly the heavyweight division's fighters who have been in the spotlight.

In the 1980s it was mainly Mike Tyson and Evander Holyfield, and in the 1990s it was also Rid**** Bowe and Lennox Lewis. However, in 2001 the Klitschkos had started to take over, and the American audience didn't respond to them, so the media turned to p4p-fighters instead.

Roy Jones Jr and Oscar de la Hoya were building their p4p-fame in the 1990s, and Roy was in the media spotlight until his losses in 2004, while Oscar's losses to Shane Mosley in 2003 and Bernard Hopkins in 2004 also reduced his popularity. In 2005 it was a vacuum where the media was struggling to find good American fighters.

After Roy's and Oscar's losses in 2004, Floyd was in 2005 catapulted to the p4p no 1, by the media, followed by Winky Wright as second. Manny was only no 5, because of his loss to Erik Morales in 2005. In the annual p4p-list of 2005 there were 5 Mexican fighters in the top 10 list, p4p, reflecting the miserable number of good American fighters.

The American media didn't have any American fighters to write about so it made Chris Byrd the world's number one heavyweight fighter of 2005, but when Chris lost to Wladimir in 2006 there was nobody.

However, down at Super-featherweight Manny Pacquiao won over Erik Morales twice in 2006, and there was potential for a media star. But Manny is not American and he is no Heavyweight fighter.

In 2007, the media and HBO blew the importance of the Oscar-Floyd fight out of all proportions. Oscar had numerous losses behind him and was a shadow of his prime-self, so it was basically an Exhibition-match. However, the American media and HBO had no other boxing fight to focus on so it was made into a huge spectacle.

Out of this spectacle came Floyd "Money" Mayweather, a skilled boxer with a new name. The media had a greater American boxer it could have focused on, Bernard Hopkins, but his losses to Jermain Taylor in 2005 indicated that he was passed his prime, so the media went with Floyd.

Ironically, when Floyd "retired" in 2007, the media was stuck with Manny being the most popular boxer, a foreigner in the Super-featherweight division. Luckily, Manny's willingness to please the audience saved boxing. He continued to excite the audience with brutal knockouts, also moving up to Welterweight where he was prepared to face anyone.

Meanwhile, Floyd returned in the end of 2009, wanting to claim the media's spotlight again.

The media followed both Floyd and Manny, but after Manny's loss on knockout to Juan Manuel in 2012 Floyd's value was expected to increase, so Showtime bought six of his fights for over $200 million. Just like expected Manny had lost followers, but he kept winning also over great opposition and soon the media started to call for a Floyd-Manny fight again.

Showtime was after four matches with Floyd stuck with a huge loss and the only way to recover the loss was to negotiate a fight between Manny and Floyd. So in 2015, Showtime will try to force Floyd to face Manny Pacquiao, who is by far the best fighter Floyd has ever faced. They might even try to force Floyd to fight Manny twice. Showtime is against the wall.

Manny doesn't need Floyd because he can face many interesting fighters at 140lbs, for example Mikey Garcia, Terence Crawford, Juan Manuel Marquez or some of Al Haymon's fighters who would love to fight him at this stage of his career.

Manny is naturally very small and enters the ring under 150lbs, so he would at this stage of his career be better off fighting boxers his own size. Terence Crawford was for example heavier in the ring at lightweight than Manny was at welterweight.

Floyd's resume is thin in comparison to for example Bernard Hopkins or Manny Pacquiao, because Floyd and Al Haymon always prioritized safety.

Al Haymon takes the credit for Floyd's fame, but with another manager Floyd could have been much more popular and also richer. Al Haymon focuses too much on Camp in his marketing, which has given Floyd a feminine persona. Constant theatricality and burlesque persona result in the public viewing Floyd as gay or mentally ******ed for acting as gay without being one. Maybe Al is acting out his own persona through Floyd and having Floyd thanking him so often, really emphasises how mentally dependent Floyd is on him.

In the negotiation for a fight in 2015, Floyd and Showtime claim that they are the A-side, but since Manny and HBO don't need the fight, they could easily claim 50%.

Floyd will be remembered for his skills, and Manny will be remembered for his legacy. Both Floyd and Manny were lucky to get the media's spotlight when there were few other great American fighters available.


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[OutClassed]

In the negotiation for a fight in 2015, Floyd and Showtime claim that they are the A-side, but since Manny and HBO don't need the fight, they could easily claim 50%.

Floyd will be remembered for his skills, and Manny will be remembered for his legacy. Both Floyd and Manny were lucky to get the media's spotlight when there were few other great American fighters available.


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personally i dont like 2 watch Floyd VS PAC, its because Floyd will never engage, he'll run and throw pot shots all night, it will be a cat & mouse fight but it needs to happen. for me Floyd style of fighting is not fun to watch and a waste of money. PAC fighting Mike garcia, crawford, JMM, Khan is more fun to watch. Floyd instead should play Volleyball as it fits his "Health comes 1st campaign"