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  • Eastcoast
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    #31
    Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
    i have a feeling (also hoping) GBP gets back all their fighters.

    what schaeffer/haymon did was illegal.

    purposely let fighters contracts expire so gbp spent the time and money developing fighters they didn't have under contract.

    really shady stuff.
    You can't force fighters to go into a contract with a promoter when they never signed in the first place. That's what the $50mill in damages that Oscar's suing Schaeffer for is about. It's interesting that Haymon's allegedly trying to help settle this suit when his names not directly on it.

    I just wonder if we'll see a class action suit against Haymon in a couple of years if he's not able to deliver for a number of his star fighters. Thurman & Wilder both had to turn down multi-million dollar offers from Roc Nations as well as the Quillin situation. I don't think Roc Nation is done either, and will make a move in the future on guys like J-Rock & Spence.

    He's treading in that gray area of the Ali Act - 'promoter/manager', yet has the clause in everyone's contract that gives him total control over them regardless of what they want. It's all good now because they have the Showtime bankroll to keep everyone happy...

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    • MasterPlan
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      #32
      Originally posted by RyunosukeRonin
      Have you seen the ESPN/FS1 property of Haymon cards those have been awful don't see how they're getting any better of course have some good ones it's the law of average especially early but after the first 6 months and beyond it'll be typical trasin says logic.

      Yeah Haymon has a lot of fighters and majority aren't very good/appealing his best ones will be saved for Showtime bcse that's a higher purse..subscription networks aren't going anywhere they have too much revenue.
      I think the last Haymon card on FS1 was the night before May/Maidana 2 when Charlo, Spence, J Rock, ect was on a card. They FS1 cards after have been with Oscars roster of his cousin, Joseph Diaz, Orazco, ect.

      I think Haymon is done with FS1 which is why he's had a bunch of cards in this month alone. He had the ESPM card with Trout and Tarver. The night after Lara/Smith and the Khan/Alexander card. Last night with Stevenson and tonight card on Showtime Extreme. A total of five cards in ten days.

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      • Dr Rumack
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        #33
        Anyone who wants to see what a Haymon monopoly would look like need look no further than 2014. He had the stable, and he had the platform, and he delivered the worst year in boxing that anyone can remember.

        How many times does he have to do the same thing before people will see what his model is? He will market his chosen fighters to death in that shitty urban music star way and put them in a real fight once every two years. 18 months at best.

        And that's what he does when he has competition. Imagine if he didn't?

        You'd probably be looking at two competitive fights for his 'stars' over half a decade. With 3-4 series of 'About Billions' in between.

        That's the Haymon value proposition. He sells 'personalities' to morons and fans of the real thing can go fuck themselves. Just like the music industry.

        Haymon's 'big plans'. You know who else has big plans? Peter Quillin.

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        • RSBonos
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          #34
          When is the NBC announcement coming? Didn't they talk of a superbowl show.

          This is the problem with Haymon, he runs things but is not a promoter.

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          • Weebler I
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            #35
            Originally posted by RSBonos
            When is the NBC announcement coming? Didn't they talk of a superbowl show.

            This is the problem with Haymon, he runs things but is not a promoter.
            Put back until the start of March last I heard.

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            • MasterPlan
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              #36
              Originally posted by Weebler I
              Put back until the start of March last I heard.
              Adrien Broner scheduled to return March 7.

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              • Sugar Adam Ali
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                #37
                good move by haymon if he does it...

                from what i have read

                he spent 20+ million to buy airtime, sorta like how infomercials do it..

                With that type of money spent, he is gonna need to make big fights like broner-lucas, etc


                And in the future his plan is to ditch ppv and go with an online streaming service similar to how WWE has rolled out the WWE network.. You pay 9.99 a month and get access to all the big fights... Cheaper than ppv, and the money would got straight to haymon,,
                If he cat get a few hundred thousand people to buy the streaming network, the money rolling in each months will be huge.....

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                • Scipio2009
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                  #38
                  The Haymon thinking is pretty simple:

                  -Beyond Mayweather/Pacquiao/Cotto/Alvarez, there aren't really any other fighters that are bringing the type of money to require PPV.

                  -With the continued development of guys like Thurman, Broner, Charlo twins, Garcia, LSC, Wilder, Mares, and the ton of promising fighters on the rise, Haymon needs to leverage more premium dates.

                  -There will likely be a maximum range of 12-14 Showtime Championship Boxing dates.

                  -Oscar does bad business, so having his guys on those FS1 cards no longer makes much sense.

                  The NBC deal gives him access to four more Showtime Championship Boxing-type dates and twenty Golden Boy Live-type dates.

                  If the viewership numbers deliver the way that most people hope, CBS Sports, NBC Sports and Fox Sports 1 are likely to put in bids to pick up the full broadcast rights and expand the dates (30-40 GBL-type dates, 5-10 SCB-type dates), with Showtime still being the default platform for airing the occasional PPV-level showdown.

                  You put the screws to Oscar, HBO, Top Rank, and any other outfit that refuses to do business with Haymon.

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                  • Fetta
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                    #39
                    Im excited to see what he has in store

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                    • AgainstTheRopes
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                      #40
                      Haymon gets a lot of flack for the matchups he made this year (and rightfully so). I think he wanted to play it safe with his biggest stars this year, so he could put them in these big fights next year on NBC and control the money w/o GBP in the way. He's not ****** and he should know that putting Garcia with the Salkas of the world wont be beneficial to him in the long run

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