Paulie:I believe Manny Pacquiao is Cheating, A cheater doesn't deserve a money fight.

[junior gong]

Wow! You feel strongly about these things. I can imagine how you must feel about the Foyd, PED scandal.

It was just a rumour started by a 'hater' Dammit! and his fighters all getting done for juicing is not, I repeat, NOT a red flag!!!:angry:

[junior gong]

Floyd has failed 3 test?

Why hasn't this been ALL over the media? You can't say the media is bias for Floyd because I see websites everyday call him a ducker.

It has been ages ago.

[IMDAZED]

Also, the best offer you speak of, Pacquiao balked at it, walked away and took on Clottey.

Exactly. They have it all twisted

[LinealChampion]

It has been ages ago.

Ages ago or not, I don't think I would have missed BoxingScenes take on it, ESPN Dan Rafeal sure would have covered it, Ring Magazine would have.

Skip Bayless would have been rubbing it in Floyds face.

Are you saying this was before Floyd was a big star, Prior to maybe 2008?

I'm just saying if Floyd was cheating, I doubt we wouldn't know about it from credible sources.

[Rath]

Also, the best offer you speak of, Pacquiao balked at it, walked away and took on Clottey.

Would all those demands/offers matter coz the latest I heard from Floyd is that he will never work with Arum? Back then is willing to work with arum? That right there negates all your position about Pac not doing Floyd Style drug test 30 million offer 50/50 etc...

[Left Hook Tua]

Tua, that's video evidence proving he didn't want it.

What else do you want man?!

pac interviews are so hard to listen too.

he says just not the day of the fight and then not 15 days before.

then he agrees with kenny when kenny asked if he took blood test day of morales fight. don't think that's true. it was the week of the fight. they wouldn't wait til fight day. he has to get approved before.

[IMDAZED]

pac interviews are so hard to listen too.

he says just not the day of the fight and then not 15 days before.

then he agrees with kenny when kenny asked if he took blood test day of morales fight. don't think that's true. it was the week of the fight. they wouldn't wait til fight day. he has to get approved before.

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/box...ory?id=4803490

Pacquiao (50-3-2, 38 KOs) didn't want any blood testing but had agreed to take three blood tests: one during the week of the kickoff news conference, which would have taken place next week; one random test to be conducted no later than 30 days before the fight; and a final test in his dressing room after the fight. Mayweather (40-0, 25 KOs) would have been subject to the same testing procedures.

Arum said Pacquiao agreed to shorten the window for a blood test to 24 days before the fight.

There was no 14 days or 15. It was 30/24. And Pac fans cheered it on . Now most "don't remember the details."

[torosboxing75]

Exactly. They have it all twisted

What % did Pac get in the Clottey fight?
What % was 40 million. You must realize mostly all boxing media agrees this fight will generate from two to three million dollars. That 40 million was maximum 20%. An offer made to be refused.

[junior gong]

Ages ago or not, I don't think I would have missed BoxingScenes take on it, ESPN Dan Rafeal sure would have covered it, Ring Magazine would have.

Skip Bayless would have been rubbing it in Floyds face.

Are you saying this was before Floyd was a big star, Prior to maybe 2008?

I'm just saying if Floyd was cheating, I doubt we wouldn't know about it from credible sources.

I wouldnt be so sure about that. People are probably just frightened of going up against Al Gaymon and getting sued, but it was all out there from Thomas Hauser and then there was all that dodgy business leading up to the grovelling apology and compensation payment floyd was forced to make.

[Doctor_Tenma]

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/box...ory?id=4803490

Pacquiao (50-3-2, 38 KOs) didn't want any blood testing but had agreed to take three blood tests: one during the week of the kickoff news conference, which would have taken place next week; one random test to be conducted no later than 30 days before the fight; and a final test in his dressing room after the fight. Mayweather (40-0, 25 KOs) would have been subject to the same testing procedures.

Arum said Pacquiao agreed to shorten the window for a blood test to 24 days before the fight.

There was no 14 days or 15. It was 30/24. And Pac fans cheered it on . Now most "don't remember the details."

Whats happening here is that they've become so accustomed to seeing Mayweather get ripped on the daily, that they forgot the facts. It's crazy....