Comments Thread For: Benavidez Edges Herrera For Title, Outcome Disputed

[doubletake]

i never said im a fan of KO's..even tho really who isnt ? i dont agree with the judges scorecards i believe jose edged it out in a close fight.its a not wide win for jose IMO.i never said the judges had great scores it just wasnt a robbery like ppl are saying like herrera schooled jose or something

funny you put up those pics of compubox that prove you wrong lol.do you know how to read em ? look at the percentages brother.if you notice in the last picture they dont punches that landed on the arms and elbows which herrera landed on a whole lot.i agree benavidez stayed on the ropes for too long too much for my liking but if ur still landing goof counters off of punches landing while ur blocking them that wins rounds for me

benavidez had herrera backing up a few times and landed the sharper more effective punches to the body AND head.not to say herrera wasnt doing his thing but the outrage is a bit much.im a fan of herrera btw so dont think im bias.

i had it like robert garcia with jose winning.but hey im off to bed im done debating its 3 am here in jersey lol

Are you serious right now? Percentages mean nothing, look at the actual figures please. A guy can throw and land one punch per round and have 100% connects, but it doesn't mean anything...and you're seriously questioning my ability to read simple numbers and percentages.

Regardless if you think he won or not, can you honestly look at any of the judges cards and say to yourself "damn, this judge is the best in the business"? As a matter of fact, this situation legitimately constitutes robbery based simply on the absolutely garbage cards that were submitted. At MOST someone could be generous and score it a draw for Benavidez. I, and MANY others except for 3 judges and the Benavidez family, can see that it was in no way a win for Jose.

[jjsmyth87]

Bro, I know you're firm on your position, and you can tell I'm firm on mine.

What I will tell you though is this: Benavidez was an amateur standout. There is absolutely no doubt he's a skilled dude, I'm not debating that. But, I'll let you think about something for a second.

A 12-year younger, taller, rangier, amateur standout got out-jabbed and out-worked by Mauricio Herrera, a guy that until recently was a plumber. Before the fight, Benavidez was commenting that Herrera wasn't a "master boxer" because he reasoned that boxing is about hitting, and not getting hit. He was correct in saying that, it is about hitting and not getting hit. Knowing that, do you think that he would stay along the ropes and lose a boxing match in the process on purpose? A highly-touted amateur purposely stayed along the ropes. Come on, even Benavidez's hardcore fans know that's not why he was on the ropes.

Your right I think it was absolutely dumb of him to stay on the stay on the ropes, maybe he figured he was outboxing him the rest of the time so maybe he'd get a breather who knows, I'd like to see a rematch and see what they would both do differently, maybe he felt like because the punches had no effect so what difference did it make to the judges idk, I could see how a judge would score in your favor too but agree to disagree I guess

[StopCrying...]

Herrera was born to be a loser. Let it go. "peeleft:

[jjsmyth87]

Are you serious right now? Percentages mean nothing, look at the actual figures please. A guy can throw and land one punch per round and have 100% connects, but it doesn't mean anything...and you're seriously questioning my ability to read simple numbers and percentages.

Regardless if you think he won or not, can you honestly look at any of the judges cards and say to yourself "damn, this judge is the best in the business"? As a matter of fact, this situation legitimately constitutes robbery based simply on the absolutely garbage cards that were submitted. At MOST someone could be generous and score it a draw for Benavidez. I, and MANY others except for 3 judges and the Benavidez family, can see that it was in no way a win for Jose.

I respectfully disagree for said reasons

[doubletake]

The power punches were damn near dead even, the difference being Benavidez threw alot less and landed a higher percentage, and they hurt Herrera unlike Herrera and his weak punches. I didn't see bemavidez head snap back or his eyes wince or anything at all one time all night. There were at least 2 or 3 punches every round landed by bemavidez that either snapped herreras head back, or you could tell he was bothered by the punch. Benavodez didn't amaze me at all, but id give him most those rounds just due to the fact he wasn't hurt one time even a little bit by any of herreras punches, while his seemed to have alot more effect, plus he landed about 50 more to the head of herrera. That is the one stat that really stands out in the punch count, plus the greater accuracy of benavidez

Since when is throwing less and landing less a positive?

Boxing criteria:
Clean Punching: Benavidez gets the clear edge here because his jab was sharp when it landed and he's just the longer, taller guy.

Effective Aggressiveness: Both had their moments, however, Hererra was more often than not pushing the longer, rangier, taller guy back into the ropes. That long jab should've been keeping Herrera away, but it didn't.

Ring Generalship: Who dictated the pace? Herrera had Benavidez along the ropes 2/3 of the fight, this should be clear. Benavidez was out-jabbed by the shorter fighter and Herrera kept the fight on the inside/along the ropes for the most part. That's most definitely Herrera's fight.

Defense: Both guys got hit, neither of them really shined in the defense department. However, you must admit, that guy that got hit with more punches PROBABLY has the worse defense of the two. In this case, Benavidez had the worse defense.


EDIT: Anyway, those cards were trash, and everyone knows that. I'm heading out now, it's been fun, we can continue tomorrow if either of us still cares in the morning lol

[doobear]

that had to be the most one sided commentary ever as well... Benavidez was outboxing him and that one commentator would just keep talking about how bad it was for benavidez to go to the ropes, meanwhile benavidez is landing hard shots on him. Then they go to the ropes and herrera is hitting his elbows and landing 2 or 3 body shots total that have no effect while benavidez rocks him back a couple times, give and take, and that commentator is lambasting him some more. Then he boxes out of it and continues his good boxing for most of the rest of the round while the commentator keeps on saying how bad benavidez is doing for going to the ropes. Seriously the whole time that's all that commentator was talking about no matter how good benavidez did all the commentator talked was bad about him. That dude needs to get fired herrera didn't hurt him at all and barely hit him on the ropes. I don't know what kind of personal vendetta he had against him, but he needs to leave the scoring to the judges and quit trying to sway the viewers. He kept talking about those so called 3 or 4 close rounds that could have gone either way that the judges might give to benavidez. Idiot if you shut your mouth and watched he deserved all of those rounds.

lmao gtfoh !!!!!!!

[R_Walken]

nothing robbery about it. it was close and benavidez landing higher percentage rate. has a style more pleasing to the judges. most of the shot herrera was throwing were landing on gloves and no power. benavidez had the more damaging blows

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[Thomas_Hearns]

Herrera landed 295 of 870, while Benavidez connected with 250 of 647.

[ADP02]

The scores were crazy bad.

Benavidez though could have fought better. Why oh why was he on those ropes for a better part of the night?

[LouIE G]

Benevidaz landed the harder cleaner punches!!! I see no controversy besides the judges scorecards..7-5 Benevidaz, is appropriate here!