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  • lopez36
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    #201
    Originally posted by El_Feroz82
    Yes if you choose to come into a fight at 155 you are a MW....when you make your opponent do the same it's not really MW anymore
    exactly!! we all understand that 155 is middleweight,but when you make your opponent not go above that is what my problem is,middleweight is up to 160,so why not let the guy weigh 160?it's still middleweight..my thing is if you are asking for catchweights just don't fight in that division or if you are don't be demanding that the opponent weigh what you want and not what the division allows

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    • jcj0427
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      #202
      Originally posted by Beater_of_ass
      I never said it wasn't lol. You make it seem like we're all saying he was 100% no one has said that, but... he was STILL supposed to win. He didn't.

      I'll wait for you to acknowledge that.
      So because he was the underdog going into the fight, its ok to give him credit for beating a fighter with badly damaged knees???

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      • Da Boxer
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        #203
        Originally posted by jcj0427
        Which was a product of the damaged knee. The jab fell short all day, his burst looked feeble, and when he went to plant his lead foot to throw the southpaw cross, his knees looked buckled and gave out. Its funny how only Cotto fans insist he beat a "fresh" Martinez.
        Bro, stop being delusional.

        Sergio's jab was lazy that night because Cotto had him confused with FAINTS and his HAND SPEED. He fainted coming low and went upstairs, he fainted going upstairs and came to the body, his positioning was essential to his plan.

        End Result: Brutal Left Hook to the head, and total disruption of Martinez game plan.

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        • Southpawology
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          #204
          Cotto should give canelo a bigger chunk of the purse to have the fight in NYC MSG

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          • Beater_of_ass
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            #205
            Originally posted by jcj0427
            So because he was the underdog going into the fight, its ok to give him credit for beating a fighter with badly damaged knees???
            I say his knee wasn't 100% you say it is badly damaged. Stop changing the framing of the injury. Still, yes if you are an underdog and win it is an upset and he deserves full credit. If you don't want to give it to him I could care less he won and is the lineal champ and you can't change it. Get over it.

            Originally posted by Joe Beamish
            It's amazing how Cotto fans can't admit he accomplished nothing more than beating a crippled has been, especially when Roach himself called it beforehand.
            It's amazing you picked Sergio to win after hearing that, I didn't. So I'm not sure what you guys are mad at me for.

            Originally posted by Mr.Fantastic
            I've seen worse decisions in Vegas and NY.
            This is true, but the WORST decisions of all time, ever come from Texas. Forge the ****ing judges they didn't even drug test Chavez after he fought Andy Lee. Texas is literally one of the worst places on the planet for anyone to fight.

            Originally posted by jcj0427
            Which was a product of the damaged knee. The jab fell short all day, his burst looked feeble, and when he went to plant his lead foot to throw the southpaw cross, his knees looked buckled and gave out. Its funny how only Cotto fans insist he beat a "fresh" Martinez.

            It's funny how Sergio is over the loss and you aren't. I'm not sure what you're trying to accomplish. Sergio's knee wasn't 100% I've said it multiple times, and Cotto won. What are you trying to prove that Cotto didn't win? That it was an easy win? That it was a bull**** win that Cotto doesn't deserve credit for? Ok fine... he still won and is the champion. Rub some sand in your vagina and man up.
            Last edited by Beater_of_ass; 12-03-2014, 06:48 PM.

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            • batista84
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              #206
              Originally posted by Fists_of_Fury
              I was thinking the same thing but he's not winning. If I was Cotto it would be my terms and on the Puerto Rican day parade weekend just so Canelo the **** doesn't get his cinco de mayo weekend unless he fought GGG lol. Canelo is a diva **** and definitely hasn't earned it like Cotto has. Cotto would be ******ed to fight in Texas. Canelo still hasn't truly beat any quality fighters... Trout disputed, Lara disputed, and Mayweather embarassed the Wendy's ****! War Cotto!
              Wow, you don't seem to realize what this fight might do for boxing.

              1 Puts pressure to make the fight all the people want to see; Floyd vs Pac

              2 It's a solid top tier fight with the 2 biggest names behind Floyd and Pacquiao

              3 Canelo vs Trout - Canelo won fair and square
              Canelo vs Floyd - Canelo was schooled whole day
              Canelo vs Lara - Could've gone either way, Lara wasn't exactly the master he said he was going to be, and you can't beat the money maker pot shoting and backpedaling the whole fight.

              4 I respect Cotto's achievements and he is a hell of a fighter, but let's face it, a win over Foreman, Rodriguez, Mayorga and handicapped Martinez is not the best adversity you can face.

              5 Canelo has fought top opposition, name another dude in all weight divisions who's fought top tier guys like Canelo, I got only 3 names, Hopkins, Crawford and Ward, the kid might not be the superstar they want him to be, but one thing you can't deny "The kid has balls and he's willing to fight the best", he doesn't give a **** about his promoter

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                #207
                Originally posted by Beater_of_ass
                I say his knee wasn't 100% you say it is badly damaged. Stop changing the framing of the injury. Still, yes if you are an underdog and win it is an upset and he deserves full credit. If you don't want to give it to him I could care less he won and is the lineal champ and you can't change it. Get over it.



                It's amazing you picked Sergio to win after hearing that, I didn't. So I'm not sure what you guys are mad at me for.



                This is true, but the WORST decisions of all time, ever come from Texas. Forge the ****ing judges they didn't even drug test Chavez after he fought Andy Lee. Texas is literally one of the worst places on the planet for anyone to fight.




                It's funny how Sergio is over the loss and you aren't. I'm not sure what you're trying to accomplish. Sergio's knee wasn't 100% I've said it multiple times, and Cotto won. What are you trying to prove that Cotto didn't win? That it was an easy win? That it was a bull**** win that Cotto doesn't deserve credit for? Ok fine... he still won and is the champion. Rub some sand in your vagina and man up.
                You're talking out of your arse here.
                Chavez was drug tested for Andy Lee.

                As if there weren't enough scandal and controversy in boxing already, now we have a manufactured one due to an honest error -- but one that many fight fans can't seem to accept as just that.


                He wasn't drug tested for Rubio, but that is also explained in the article.

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                • jcj0427
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                  #208
                  Originally posted by Beater_of_ass
                  I say his knee wasn't 100% you say it is badly damaged. Stop changing the framing of the injury. Still, yes if you are an underdog and win it is an upset and he deserves full credit. If you don't want to give it to him I could care less he won and is the lineal champ and you can't change it. Get over it.



                  It's amazing you picked Sergio to win after hearing that, I didn't. So I'm not sure what you guys are mad at me for.



                  This is true, but the WORST decisions of all time, ever come from Texas. Forge the ****ing judges they didn't even drug test Chavez after he fought Andy Lee. Texas is literally one of the worst places on the planet for anyone to fight.




                  It's funny how Sergio is over the loss and you aren't. I'm not sure what you're trying to accomplish. Sergio's knee wasn't 100% I've said it multiple times, and Cotto won. What are you trying to prove that Cotto didn't win? That it was an easy win? That it was a bull**** win that Cotto doesn't deserve credit for? Ok fine... he still won and is the champion. Rub some sand in your vagina and man up.
                  Sergio said it, not me, in the prior link I posted.

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                  • bigjavi973
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                    #209
                    Originally posted by Da Boxer
                    This numbnuts still thinks that the beating/clinic that Cotto put on Martinez was due to the ***ing knee.

                    This theory that you and others who are still butt hurt that Cotto pushed Sergio's chit deep into his azz is buguss.

                    Do you and the other delusional numbnuts understand boxing and technique? King Cotto setup that brutal hook to Sergio's head with faints, foot work and over Sergio's lazy jab, and not because it was lazy because he does have a thunderous jab but it was lazy because he did not know if Cotto was coming in low or high due to his faints and had nothing to do with his "knees". Sergio was fresh, and had nothing, absolutely nothing to do with the knees.

                    GTFO with that knee bullchit bra'!
                    Hes knee was fine enough to dash straight across the ring to punch cotto when cotto thought the round ended 5 seconds too soon. But they'll deny that

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                    • Fantasiabruja
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                      #210
                      The fight that is going to happen is Cotto vs Mayweather 2, those negotiation's are well underway and that's the real reason Cotto is going to California next week. IMO

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