Comments Thread For: Canelo Warns Mayweather: Not Moving From 5/2, 9/12!

[bigjavi973]

The offer is there for Arum and Manny to accept. So if they reject the 40mill with 35% upside, you're still going to say Mayweather is the one ducking? The duck move was years ago, when someone couldn't agree to a 14 day, drug testing cut-off and was afraid of needles.

and what happened when pac agreed later on to the 14 day cut off??? "I dont do business with bob arum" what a crock of ****

[kej718]

He needs to get that Cotto fight done first. I don't think Canelo will even be relevant after next year (Cotto could beat him, GGG could end him).

Chavez Jr. will be able to make bigger fights and he will takes those dates once Floyd retires.

[IronDanHamza]

They are? Floyd wouldn't have hit 2 million if not for Alvarez being an undefeated Mexican. Cotto did great number with Manny and Floyd too, but both also did well on their own pay per views based on normal boxing standards. I believe Cotto Martinez and Canelo-Lara/Angulo all did about 300k-500k which is great if your not Floyd or Manny.

I'm not saying they are bigger draws but them fighting each other and the fact Floyd wouldn't have a decent opponent to go up against them with, I really think he would lose in the states. I'm sure a Khan fight would sell well with overseas revenue included, But in the states no way Floyd does even close to as well as he normally does against that other PPV.

In the end both events suffer but I think Floyd would suffer more.

They aren't doing 300-500k they're doing less than 400k.

Decent numbers. But then compare that to Floyd's against non draws, that's the casual audience.

[JustinFloyd]

Mayweather has two choices:

1. Get punked by Canelo for the May and September dates

2. Fight Pacquiao

Actually, its three.

3. Take a vacation.

[bigjavi973]

This want to "reclaim" dates by Canelo and Oscar is just dumb. Suppose you secure the date. And Mayweather decides to fight the week before. Guess what? Casuals aren't buying PPV's in successive weeks so Canelo loses. Just dumb.

but mayweather is not moving the date doe

[$Bullsfam$]

I really don't want to debate you guys all morning especially since this is all speculation. Sure 250k for Floyd was me being dramatic but the most important factor I see here is Showtime. I don't see them getting a huge cut of British PPV and if they can't max out on Floyd I don't think they take the fight if they can't guarantee to make a certain number against another huge fight.

I'm sure Floyd with his ego would probably be down for a stand off but I just don't see it. And with Khan his best option minus Danny Garcia which is unlikely I just don't think it happens. And I think the buzz around the Hispanic community could make Cotto-Alvarez bigger then Cotto-Margarito.

But I'll agree to disagree.

[bigjavi973]

Floyd "flops" do what? 800-900k?

What did Canelo lasts PPV do? 300K right?

Cotto-Martinez was a big fight and what did that do? 350k?

Together they are 200k short of Floyd's "flop".

What people dot understand is this fight is not as big a fight to the casuals as it is to the hardcore fans.

The casuals are what drive the PPV and the hardcore fans think to he casuals are as interested in this fight as they are.

What was floyd's last ppv numbers? Not projected numbers either, the REAL numbers.

[junior gong]

What was floyd's last ppv numbers? Not projected numbers either, the REAL numbers.

He cant give them as they havent been released yet. What he can do though is give you the TMTworld/floydhype/blacksportsonline figures. They're the real ones apparently.

[MDPopescu]

... You forget one thing: PPV numbers are no longer the issue here -- because PPV is in steep decline as a business niche.

The main issue here is: who is going to dominate the boxing business scene at the top!

But never mind...

[The Big Dunn]

Big Dunn, dear, I do appreciate your relentless efforts in supporting some legends in this sport... But everything has to end sooner or later...

Making it about me rather than the point makes no sense. we are having a debate. if you wish not to participate, don't.