Sam Watson say's mayweather wants paqman.....

[12TRIBEsRiSe]

I have no problems calling a fighter a coward if they did what Floyd has done for years now. I wouldn't consider myself a coward, but I'm scared ****less of heights, not on a plane or elevator and I can stand a roof but I'll be thinking of not falling... or falling off the entire time. I won't go on the stratosphere or Empire State Building HELL NAW! But I wouldn't call myself a coward.

Floyd fights men in the ring, he isn't a coward. But whenever you say Manny Floyd is scared ****less.

LOL maybe its the mafia who knows but i dont think these 2 are afraid of eachother at all

[Strategic1]

I don't have a problem with most of this. What I DO have a problem with the double standards. People won't call a spade a spade. If you could say that Floyd is a "duck" for the last few years for Pac, even though an Pac's team has never come to the table, then what do you call Pac for walking away when the fight was at it's hottest and they were both near prime? People don't call Pac a duck, thay make excuses for him. What do they call him Pac fighting Cotto who didn't look good at the time over Mosley who had just KO'd Margarito? Not a duck again. You can't have it both ways!

I think both parties weren't genuinely serious in 2009-2010. They both knew they could maximize their earnings fighting other guys. At the same time, Floyd's demands were unprecedented in the sport and not reasonable. When all the conditions were met, he'd throw in more roadblocks unrelated to his original demands. It was about ego. Clearly.

Pacquiao choosing Cotto over Mosley isn't a duck.

Again reference my list of valid reasons for a duck
Money
Marinade
Maximize earnings
Another legitimate fighter

Add in that Cotto already beat Mosley in 2007. Cotto has a big following and is a legit $ fight. That's not a duck.

[12TRIBEsRiSe]

Yeah, there is also Vargas saying there was a STRONG chance of him getting the fight next if he looked good against Demarco(Just like Clottey, Margarito, Mosley and Marquez). Funny though, you will run after a rumor when it comes to Floyd, but ignore it coming from the fighters mouth, when it comes to Pac.

this is and has always been my point with these guys, they ignore and support anything pac does including rios and algeirie (one of them even made a thread saying algierie would beat floyd) and now the fact that vargas' name has even came up isnt scoffed at??????? why is jesse vargas even mentioned??? that is sad!!! if floyd went down to 140 right now with all this up and coming talent he would not hear the end of it just like his vacation... these guys are some hypocrites

[Mike D]

lol i dont think pac fans really want it

Well they better get over those fears cause its coming. Hopefully team pac dont walk

I'm a Manny fan and there's nothing else in the world of sports that I want more than a Floyd/Manny fight.

Nothing.

Make it happen.

[12TRIBEsRiSe]

I think both parties weren't genuinely serious in 2009-2010. They both knew they could maximize their earnings fighting other guys. At the same time, Floyd's demands were unprecedented in the sport and not reasonable. When all the conditions were met, he'd throw in more roadblocks unrelated to his original demands. It was about ego. Clearly.

Pacquiao choosing Cotto over Mosley isn't a duck.

Again reference my list of valid reasons for a duck
Money
Marinade
Maximize earnings
Another legitimate fighter

Add in that Cotto already beat Mosley in 2007. Cotto has a big following and is a legit $ fight. That's not a duck.

so in 2009 that was the first time drug testing had been asked for in the sport to make a fight? why werent mannys demands ever taken into consideration when you guys say floyds demands were so crazy???? he had demands and so did floyd, floyd accepted and pac didnt.

[Evol]

LOL maybe its the mafia who knows but i dont think these 2 are afraid of eachother at all

Afraid of eachother? I don't think so, but afraid of losing that "0"? Very possible and I think that's what most people is saying.

[12TRIBEsRiSe]

Afraid of eachother? I don't think so, but afraid of losing that "0"? Very possible and I think that's what most people is saying.

i see!!!!!!!!

[Strategic1]

if this is so manny ducked floyd in 2009 according to his own team, why isnt this ever mentioned when using the coward or duck word????????

Like I stated in my post above, both parties are to blame. But Floyd came up with some unprecedented demands . Making demands to another A-side fighter. PAC was making noise while Floyd was in retirement. And then comes back making PED accusations and demanding to take tests? WTF is that. I think it was reasonable for PAC to sue the Mayweather fam. He got a settlement because guess what, there were no grounds for them to defame Pacquiao. And then Mayweather saying PAC should only get 40 million???

Pacquiao had an ego back then...sorta like "who the $%$ are you to come to negotations with that $3it?"... Seems like all HOF boxers agreed with this.

PAC then agreed to all the conditions eventually and Floyd came out with more roadblocks.
ie. must leave Arum, must join Mayweather promotions...

Anyways, ...the fact is we are in 2014, approaching 2015. It's clear who wants the fight. Not sure where Floyd stands now.

[torosboxing75]

so in 2009 that was the first time drug testing had been asked for in the sport to make a fight? why werent mannys demands ever taken into consideration when you guys say floyds demands were so crazy???? he had demands and so did floyd, floyd accepted and pac didnt.

What was Manny asking for that was out of the ordinary?

[megadeth]

I think both parties weren't genuinely serious in 2009-2010. They both knew they could maximize their earnings fighting other guys. At the same time, Floyd's demands were unprecedented in the sport and not reasonable.

Here we go with the excuses. 20mil per lb overweight penalty was "unprecedented" but Floyd agreed to that. Not to mention, Tyson wanted OSDT for Holyfield, did he not? Asking for drug testing was just as reasonable as Pac's demand. Funny how it become COMPLETELY reasonable in 2 years time, so much that ALL of Pac's excuses magically vanished and he was demanding it of someone else.

When all the conditions were met, he'd throw in more roadblocks unrelated to his original demands.

You are showing your bias saying here. OSDT was the ONLY thing holding up the fight. You can't sit back and say "he'd throw in more roadblocks unrelated to his original demands" when he was the one still standing at the table and Pac was not. PAC was the one that walked away..PERIOD! It was their fault and it was a duck. If the roles were reversed, you know u would be calling Floyd a duck, why u can't do the same for Pac shows how bias you are.

Pacquiao choosing Cotto over Mosley isn't a duck.

Why was it not? Mosley proved to be the bigger fight and was more dangerous. Not to mention he pushed for the fight and was told the reason why they didn't want to fight him. He was too good! You are gonna honestly say that isn't a duck?

Again reference my list of valid reasons for a duck
Money
Marinade
Maximize earnings
Another legitimate fighter

Is this from the Official Guide to Boxing Ducks?

Add in that Cotto already beat Mosley in 2007. Cotto has a big following and is a legit $ fight. That's not a duck.

You need to stop. Roach himself said many times that Cotto didn't look the same and admitted they wanted that fight because of it. Mosley bludgeoned the guy that had ****d Cotto and Roach even said Mosley was too good. Why don't you face facts and call a duck a duck. When it's Floyd, you are happy to do it with much less proof.