Better win: Canelo over Lara or Kovalev over Hopkins?

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  • bojangles1987
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    #11
    Originally posted by IronDanHamza
    Arguably. So every close fight in history can't compare to Kovalev's win because they arguably didn't win?

    Pacquaio arguably didn't beat Marquez in 2008 but which win would you say is better Marquez or Hopkins?

    Kovalev's performance was better in the sense he dominated but I can't see how beating a 49 year old Hopkins is better than beating Lara.
    I like Lara, but he's not so much better than Hopkins that a disputed split decision is better than someone beating the hell out of Hopkins for 12 one-sided rounds.

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    • Luiz
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      #12
      I scored Lara vs Canelo a draw so Kovalev over BHop.

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      • Eastcoast
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        #13
        Even without the Alvarez-Lara decision being close/controversial, Hopkins had been more active than Lara leading up to the fight and had a couple of titles vs Lara's one interim. But yeah, Alvarez-Lara was nip-tuck where Kovalev dominated a guy who had never been dominated before.

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        • IronDanHamza
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          #14
          Originally posted by bojangles1987
          I like Lara, but he's not so much better than Hopkins that a disputed split decision is better than someone beating the hell out of Hopkins for 12 one-sided rounds.
          Of course he is.

          Hopkins at 49 definitely isn't better than a prime Lara.

          Lara was considered the best legit Jr MW in the world.

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            #15
            Originally posted by LacedUp
            Ask yourself how many people genuinely felt Hopkins would win over Kovalev. I said from the start he had no chance. Hopkins hasn't fought anyone near the level of Kovalev for years and years and lost to Dawson who's not even 1/10th the fighter Kovalev is

            On the other hand you have Lara who many said was the boogeyman and Canelo would never fight him, he'd get outboxed and Mayweather should fight Lara etc. It was a 50/50 fight.

            Name wise, Hopkins of course craps all over Lara. But quality of win I'd go Lara over Hopkins any day.
            Lots of people were picking Hopkins. Maybe not a 50/50 fight but at least 60/40.

            ringtv.craveonline.com/news/362819-who-wins-bernard-hopkins-sergey-kovalev

            "insiders"/journalists tallied a 15-12 ratio for Kovalev (~55%) and betting odds were not much different (unless you tried to bet Hopkins by KO).
            Last edited by ////; 11-25-2014, 08:56 AM.

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            • boliodogs
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              #16
              I am a huge Canelo fan but I don't see how the two fights even compare. Canelo won a close fight that was not exciting because Lara fought a safety first hit and run like hell fight. Kovalev took apart a very high ranked light heavyweight and a legend so Kovalev had the better win.

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              • BOXEO _
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                #17
                Obviously Kov>B-Hop. I scored Lara/Canelo 7-5 for Lara.

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                • MDPopescu
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                  #18
                  I only took one single wager on this site: that Canelo will win a "hard fought" decision against Lara.... And I won that bet...

                  (I didn't even watch that fight live...)

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                    #19
                    I pick the dominant, indisputable victory where 3 titles were on the line

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                    • NEETzsche
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                      #20
                      the comprehensive nature of kovalev's victory gives it the edge. he whitewashed hopkins and shows dimensions to his game that many didn't know he had. plus in the future hopkins' name will surely carry more weight to historians than nearly-man lara's

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