Did old school boxers have more skills?

[Beater_of_ass]

The guys back in the day had A LOT more heart. Not necessarily that they had more heart than Manny or Margarito but back then heart wasn't even a trait, it was expected. Fighting 3-4 times in a 2 or 3 months and even more in some cases is crazy to fathom nowadays. Or Broner's hands being held as he went back to the locker room... that just wouldn't happen. I think that's the biggest difference overall, but today's fighters make up for that with athleticism as others have stated.

It's no different than if LeBron, Jordan or even Magic Johnson went back to the 50's they wouldn't absolutely dominate the game. Chamberlin just had a size advantage he wasn't doing the things Charles Barkley or Shaq were doing in their primes. Take a smaller guy like Chris Paul even and he wouldn't lose a game to Jerry West. Just too much speed, reaction time and complete different style than what they've seen. Now, that toughness again would overcome the inability to keep up with those things for a lot of older fighters, but I'm positive a lot of guys would compete even with a much smaller talent pool as stated.

[SeekDaGreat]

No, but they had more heart.

[-PBP-]

Compared to who?

Anybody from any era except for a once in a lifetime athletic freak like prime Roy Jones. All of the fighters I listed would hold their own and compete with the best.

[Chris Bauermeis]

Rankings list from 1992 - picked at random.

Pound for pound

Julio Cesar Chavez
Pernell Whitaker
Terry Norris
Orlando Canizales
James (Buddy) McGirt
Rid**** Bowe
Azumah Nelson
Sung-Kil Moon
Julian Jackson
James Toney

Heavyweight
Title Vacant

Rid**** Bowe
Lennox Lewis
Evander Holyfield
Michael Moorer
Tony Tucker
George Foreman
Razor Ruddock
Ray Mercer
Tommy Morrison
Alex Garcia

cruiser
Bobby Czyz
Anaclet Wamba
Alfred Cole
Orlin Norris
James Warring
Nate Miller
Arthur Williams
Akim Tafer
Marcelo Victor Figueroa
Robert Daniels


Super middleweight
Title Vacant

Michael Nunn
Iran Barkley
Chris Eubank
Victor Cordoba
Nigel Benn
Tim Littles
Darrin Van Horn
Tony Thornton
Frankie Liles
Frank Nicotra

Middleweights
Julian Jackson
James Toney
Reggie Johnson
Roy Jones Jr.
Mike McCallum
Sumbu Kalambay
Gerald McClellan
Lamar Parks
Bernard Hopkins
Thomas Tate

Jr middle
Title Vacant

Terry Norris
Gianfranco Rosi
Vinny Pazienza
John David Jackson
Verno Phillips
Julio Cesar Chavez
Gilbert Dele
Carl Daniels
Aaron Davis
Laurent Boudouani

Go here and select a year Its night and day that todays fighters aren't a patch overall. I don't think its numbers or anything like that I feel its a lack of good trainers.

http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Th...Annual_Ratings

You didn't have to tell me you picked those names at random..lol

[-PBP-]

Rankings list from 1992 - picked at random.

Pound for pound

Julio Cesar Chavez
Pernell Whitaker
Terry Norris
Orlando Canizales
James (Buddy) McGirt
Rid**** Bowe
Azumah Nelson
Sung-Kil Moon
Julian Jackson
James Toney

Heavyweight
Title Vacant

Rid**** Bowe
Lennox Lewis
Evander Holyfield
Michael Moorer
Tony Tucker
George Foreman
Razor Ruddock
Ray Mercer
Tommy Morrison
Alex Garcia

cruiser
Bobby Czyz
Anaclet Wamba
Alfred Cole
Orlin Norris
James Warring
Nate Miller
Arthur Williams
Akim Tafer
Marcelo Victor Figueroa
Robert Daniels


Super middleweight
Title Vacant

Michael Nunn
Iran Barkley
Chris Eubank
Victor Cordoba
Nigel Benn
Tim Littles
Darrin Van Horn
Tony Thornton
Frankie Liles
Frank Nicotra

Middleweights
Julian Jackson
James Toney
Reggie Johnson
Roy Jones Jr.
Mike McCallum
Sumbu Kalambay
Gerald McClellan
Lamar Parks
Bernard Hopkins
Thomas Tate

Jr middle
Title Vacant

Terry Norris
Gianfranco Rosi
Vinny Pazienza
John David Jackson
Verno Phillips
Julio Cesar Chavez
Gilbert Dele
Carl Daniels
Aaron Davis
Laurent Boudouani

Go here and select a year Its night and day that todays fighters aren't a patch overall. I don't think its numbers or anything like that I feel its a lack of good trainers.

http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Th...Annual_Ratings

With the exception of the ATGs like Chavez and Whitaker the best fighters of today's era would more than hold their own.

[Run]

Anybody from any era except for a once in a lifetime athletic freak like prime Roy Jones. All of the fighters I listed would hold their own and compete with the best.

What about Ali? He might be the most athletic freak of nature boxing has ever...or will ever see.

as for your point ya...the lower weights I get

A guy that big and fast though



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[Chris Bauermeis]

take of this era for what ever it's worth............people are literally looking for any and everything that they can find. the talent pool is so low when compared to past eras.

This right here.^^^^^^^


If all the "modern training techniques" and "superior diet" are so important

WHY DON'T WE SEE IT IN THE RING?????

[Chris Bauermeis]

PAC has the combo of athleticism and skill too brah...

Pac falls in one ONE FOOT with his hands by his crotch.

That will always get you face planted brah.

You couln't get away with as many flaws back then as today.

[Chris Bauermeis]

Anybody from any era except for a once in a lifetime athletic freak like prime Roy Jones. All of the fighters I listed would hold their own and compete with the best.

RJJ would have been figure out and KTFO'd a lot sooner in previous eras.

[-PBP-]

What about Ali? He might be the most athletic freak of nature boxing has ever...or will ever see.

A guy that big and fast.

I think Ali vs Lewis would be a competitive 8-4 decision for Ali. Wlad may struggle with the speed and movement.

But needless to say I don't think he would whitewash every heavyweight of the past few eras.