Did old school boxers have more skills?

[-PBP-]

Not only that, let's not forgot how many "world titles" exist today. Guys like Broner and Guerrero claim they're "multiple weight class champions," two guys that would have never even sniffed a real world title where you had only one or two titles in each division and monsters fighting it out.

Yeah but Guerrero and Broner aren't the standard for this era. They are fringe contenders. You have to compare them to guys like Milton McCrory, Vinny Pazienza, etc. Every era had its share of tough contenders who fall short of being greats. The belts are an issue but we are all smart enough to know who is a real champion and who isn't.

[MurkaMan]

Or have modern fighters with their cutting edge training methods evolved way beyond the primitive techniques of the old days?

People wont admit it but those fighters ******. Go back and watch Ray Robinson, he was the absolute best in his era and this dude was slow, flatfooted, and he would swing powershots from his hips. In HIS era he was fast. But this dude is a bum compared to Pac and Floyd.

And even looking at SRL he was looked at as Floyd of his era, now compare him and Floyd the skillset difference is through the roof. He was as versitile as it could get in his era. Floyd is a whole nother beast. SRL had a plus minus of 15, while Floyd's was 30, and Floyd was at the age of 33 when his plus minus peeked. SRL was washed up doing dope at the age of 30.

Its popular to lie about past ATG's and act like they were something they were not. In THEIR era they were great but compared to even Pacman, its like night and day. Thats the reason I dont really like the past ATG's they ****** lol

[Chris Bauermeis]

Yeah but Guerrero and Broner aren't the standard for this era. They are fringe contenders. You have to compare them to guys like Milton McCrory, Vinny Pazienza, etc. Every era had its share of tough contenders who fall short of being greats. The belts are an issue but we are all smart enough to know who is a real champion and who isn't.

It's careless to call Broner a fringe contender.
He's too young to be written off so quickly.

He underestimated his opponent and tried to fight Maidana like he fought at 130 and 135.

Boxing is filled with cases of a young fighter looking past a hard punching veteran and getting his as.s kicked.

It is old as boxing itself.

I credit Broner for his willingness to stalk tough opponents even at higher weights.

Imagine Golovkin with half of Broner's ambition.

[Chris Bauermeis]

People wont admit it but those fighters ******. Go back and watch Ray Robinson, he was the absolute best in his era and this dude was slow, flatfooted, and he would swing powershots from his hips. In HIS era he was fast. But this dude is a bum compared to Pac and Floyd.

And even looking at SRL he was looked at as Floyd of his era, now compare him and Floyd the skillset difference is through the roof. He was as versitile as it could get in his era. Floyd is a whole nother beast. SRL had a plus minus of 15, while Floyd's was 30, and Floyd was at the age of 33 when his plus minus peeked. SRL was washed up doing dope at the age of 30.

Its popular to lie about past ATG's and act like they were something they were not. In THEIR era they were great but compared to even Pacman, its like night and day. Thats the reason I dont really like the past ATG's they ****** lol

This is the REAL reason boxing is going backwards...ignorance.

[Elroy1]

Ray Robinson

The absolute proof that skills have improved beyond measure.

Considered to be the most skilled boxer by the OTNB community.

Absolutely no defence.

A plodding brawler basically.

Myth busted.

Case closed.

[Jc8804]

Depends on which old fighters you mean.

Odds are when Pac and Floyd are retired 10 years they'll be pretty much unbeatable in fantasy fights too. Certainly no active fighters will be given a shot at beating them.

While guys are active, they're less appreciated. When they're gone, people will rate their skills more highly. So 'today's fighters' are always going to be at a disadvantage in this sort of discussion.

Errol spence and lara GGG beat them both.crawford would be a good fight for both.kid is versatile.

Timmy gave pac issues. Floyd bbever fought him.
Thurman would be a threat to both as well

[Elroy1]

I think its lack of great trainers...and how the world has changed since the 70s,80s,90s,

Every trainer, like every boxer, has built upon all who came before.

Trainers today have far more tools at their disposal including video, focus mitts etc.

Trainers today focus on the things that work and not those that history has proven don't so much. They care about one thing only. WINNING.

Boxers today are better prepared for each of their fights, they spend far more time training for each event specifically, past boxer did not.

A "great trainer" is one which has been glorified by the yankee boxing media only! It's just a label used in the myth making.

[boliodogs]

I don't think the old timers had more skill on average. There were some very skillful fighters in times past but we have them today as well. Pacquiao, Marquez, Ward, Mayweather, Hopkins, Rigo, GGG and many more of today's fighters are highly skilled. The modern training methods give the fighters who use them and train hard a slight edge but not that big an edge over the way old timers trained. Some of those guys got into incredible fighting shape with just running, bag punching, sparring, jumping rope, shadow boxing and chopping wood. That stuff worked then just as it does today.

[ShoulderRoll]

Ray Robinson

The absolute proof that skills have improved beyond measure.

Considered to be the most skilled boxer by the OTNB community.

Absolutely no defence.

A plodding brawler basically.

Very weak troll attempt.

Ray Robinson had a record of 128-1 at one point in his career. That makes Floyd's 47-0 look like child's play in comparison.

Ray had more wins than most modern day fighters have fights in an entire career.

[Boxfan7819]

I don't agree with ray robinson being the TBE personally I think it would be Ali.
When I watch these older fighters they don't seem as technical and slick as today's boxers