Frazier vs klitschko

[kiDynamite92]

No, Brewster was not legit. Brewster was the result of a hyperglycaemic coma. You could see Wladimir sick at the beginning of the fight and you could see his condition worsen the whole fight whilst never getting hit. And Wladimir was never KOed in that fight anyway.

Neither was he KOed proper in the Puritty fight either. Despite fighting 20 times, he'd flogged out every opponent within 4 rounds, mostly in the 1st. Puritty was the first time he'd been stretched so far.

Despite these 2 losses, Wladimir 1 sidedly bashed both these opponents until the bitter end. The only reason either of them survived long enough was because both have 2 of the hardest chins of all time as evidenced by their careers.

Hardest Chin of all time? Wlad came back and beat both those guys later on and even his featherfist brother beat one of them! Wlad looked fine against Brewster until he got him and then he was all over the place like his usual self.

[LacedUp]

Hardest Chin of all time? Wlad came back and beat both those guys later on and even his featherfist brother beat one of them! Wlad looked fine against Brewster until he got him and then he was all over the place like his usual self.

Wlad only avenged one of his losses. Big bro took care of the others.

[Elroy1]

The opponents Frazier fought were cruiser bums.

Corrie was dropped by durable and hard opponents.

The fact I know who Frazier's opponents are and you don't know who Corries were is proof.

I know exactly what I am talking about and you don't. You probably never even seen Corrie's fights.

I KNOW Corrie would KO1 Frazier because I've seen them both!

Corrie is so much better than Frazier they don't even play in the same league either!

Between all the great RSA boxers, Corrie was the best, including Botha.

[billeau2]

Be honest here.

How much MORE raw power do you think Frazier had, than Peter?

Remove any bias in regards to the divisional era argument.

It has nothing to do with power. Look... Go to Utube and watch Henry Armstrong versus Barney Ross, watch how relentless Armstrong is and how he never lets Ross set. Frazier fought in a similar style. Especially prime Frazier. Frazier was also hard to hit, yes Foreman was his kryptonite as some have said, but Foreman could move a lot better than Vlad.

If Vlad tried to clinch Frazier he would be hit to the body, you can't tie up a hooker like you can someone coming in straight. Ali, who could move with the best of them could not stop Frazier coming in.

Lets also remember that Frazier that fought Foreman was not prime.

How would Vlad land a hook like he did on Pulov on the weaving Frazier? He might land a few jabs but Frazier had a great beard. Vlad would be exhausted by the middle rounds.

Holyfield would do Vlad the same way....Vlad has never fought a pressure guy half as good as either Frazier or Hollyfield.

[Juof]

Wlad UD maybe late ko. wlad would tie up and lean on the small Frazier all night

[kiDynamite92]

WK has taken monster bombs throughout his career from monstrous punchers, been dropped a few other times but always came back to win. His chin is strong DESPITE coming in so fine, which obviously leaves his chin weaker than if he came in chubbier. He can afford to come in so athletic because he is so good he barely gets hit anyway!

What so being chubby helps your chin? wtf is wrong with you?

[kiDynamite92]

Joe Frazier lost 2ce to 2 guys.

One of them was a totally reflexless, defenceless punching bag who could do little but hold on for grim death and could not punch successfully through the surface tension of water. Any modern boxer would have wasted Ali but because Frazier had no punch, he failed to knock out this guy over all those rounds! Pathetic!

Ali was untouchable in his prime. When he came out of prison he didn't have his legs anymore which caused him to get hit more. He only took real punishment in the Foreman fight, that's the only time you could call him a punching bag. No modern HW would be able to lay a finger on Ali, Wlad would fall over just trying and instantly KO himself. Wlad is pathetic, he could't stop a glass jaw fraud in David Haye. He was just scared like the woman he is.

[Elroy1]

Hardest Chin of all time? Wlad came back and beat both those guys later on and even his featherfist brother beat one of them! Wlad looked fine against Brewster until he got him and then he was all over the place like his usual self.

Not supported by the video evidence that clearly shows him sick. Not supported by statements made pre-fight. Not supported by doctors report. Not supported by Bernstein investigation incident. Jury's out on you. That's why OTNB only sparingly mention Brewster when dissing WK, because it doesn't wash.

Ross Puritty is declared everywhere to be a boxer with possibly the hardest chin of all time. Lamon Brewster is also revered as having one of the hardest chins. Chins like this never existed in Frazier's times! Corrie Sanders himself usually only lost when he gassed.

Watch Sanders vs Vitali. Sander's had more steel in that jaw than in any of his golf clubs!

[billeau2]

Funny klit fans say Frazier had a glass chin and points to his four losses who were against two top 5 ATG heavies. All 4 losses came when he was over the hill.

Wlad has 3 losses to........? Oh yeah that's right.

Yeah but.....Corrie Sanders is an evolved heavyweight. Because of genetic mutations responding to the environment making fighters bigger and stronger if if if Corrie were around back then he would have Ko'ed Ali, foreman and Frazier on the same night! And and and he would have had Dempsey for dessert!

So there you go Vlad got beat by an All Time Great! See?

[Chris Bauermeis]

Wlad UD maybe late ko. wlad would tie up and lean on the small Frazier all night

Frazier was WAYYYYY better than the guys that destroyed Vlad.

Whatever Brewster and Purrity can do,Joe could do better.


Joe was a bob and weave fighter...that style is fatal for guys that lean straight back like Vlad.