Comments Thread For: Vitali Klitschko: Nobody in The World Can Beat Wladimir

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  • Ravens Fan
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    #61
    Originally posted by A-Wolf
    That's the kind of chicken **** answer I expect.
    What are you some kind of key board warrior?

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    • A-Wolf
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      #62
      Originally posted by Ravens Fan
      What are you some kind of key board warrior?
      My bad, sweetie. Didn't mean to hurt your feelings.

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        #63
        Originally posted by LacedUp
        No need to act like a girl. Aren't you like 45? Why are you acting like a a 5 year old girl?
        No I am actually a little older and since my children are grown I don't even know what a five year old acts like.

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        • kafkod
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          #64
          Originally posted by LacedUp
          No, Lennox did everything better than Wlad.
          In your opinion. If you look at the records, Wlad has a higher KO ratio than Lennox and, of course, more successful defences - and counting.

          Originally posted by LacedUp
          Tommy Morrison was a good fighter man, don't know why you'd put him down? He'd certainly give Wlad a better test than what he's getting currently, although I have no doubt Wlad would beat him.

          I was watching some videos of Bert Cooper yesterday, a fringe contender in the 90s. I would put all my money on him being the next best thing in this era. The way he threw to the body and head like a prime Tyson, was vicious in his punching.

          We don't see that nowadays, people who go for the kill from the first bell. I honestly don't see who in this current division other than Wlad that would beat someone like Bert Cooper.
          Tommy Morrison was good for 5 rounds but lacked stamina and was too easy to hit.
          Bert Cooper was small enough to make cruiserweight and lost almost as many fights as he won at heavyweight, 20 plus defeats. If he was active today he wouldn't even make the top 20 as a heavy. He just wasn't big enough, even in the 90's.

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            #65
            Originally posted by LacedUp


            You're not trying to tell me Wlad has a better chin than Lewis? I know that's not what you're trying to do, because I'll go there.
            I did not say that, what I will say is that Wlad's supposed glass jaw has been blown way, way out of proportion.

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              #66
              Originally posted by A-Wolf
              My bad, sweetie. Didn't mean to hurt your feelings.
              Sweetie, wow, it so nice of you to show your soft side!! I knew the key board warrior stuff was just an act.

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                #67
                Originally posted by LacedUp
                Pulev has no skills, that's his problem. He has absolutely no skills and fights like an amateur....
                Funny, I barely remember the last time Wlad said he had a rough time in there vs a fighter. Or maybe Pulev DOES have some skills.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by kafkod
                  In your opinion. If you look at the records, Wlad has a higher KO ratio than Lennox and, of course, more successful defences - and counting.

                  Tommy Morrison was good for 5 rounds but lacked stamina and was too easy to hit.
                  Bert Cooper was small enough to make cruiserweight and lost almost as many fights as he won at heavyweight, 20 plus defeats. If he was active today he wouldn't even make the top 20 as a heavy. He just wasn't big enough, even in the 90's.
                  Yeah, and Wilder also have a higher KO % than Wladimir. Lennox would never fight some of the guys Wlad has fought. Never.

                  Yeah, he actually was a CW
                  I'm talking about his prime, you can't judge a fighter on what happened when he got too old. At his prime, I don't see anyone with the skills he had. Maybe Povetkin, but other than that I don't see anyone in the top 20 that would beat him. Aside from Wlad of course.

                  Originally posted by Ravens Fan
                  I did not say that, what I will say is that Wlad's supposed glass jaw has been blown way, way out of proportion.
                  So why are you trying to compare it to Lennox's when Lennox's chin was clearly better? I think his chin is pretty bad, but he's learned to protect it. Which is good I suppose. that's why he never throws bodyshots. That's why he steps back after a jab. He knows he doesn't take a shot well and he's adapted to it.

                  Originally posted by PunchyPotorff
                  Funny, I barely remember the last time Wlad said he had a rough time in there vs a fighter. Or maybe Pulev DOES have some skills.
                  Which skills? Just tell me which skills he has? People are telling me he has skills, but no one wants to say which skills he has!

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by LacedUp
                    Yeah, and Wilder also have a higher KO % than Wladimir. Lennox would never fight some of the guys Wlad has fought. Never.

                    Yeah, he actually was a CW
                    I'm talking about his prime, you can't judge a fighter on what happened when he got too old. At his prime, I don't see anyone with the skills he had. Maybe Povetkin, but other than that I don't see anyone in the top 20 that would beat him. Aside from Wlad of course.
                    Wlad is the second longest reigning world heavyweight champion in boxing history. Wilder hasn't fought a single top 30 ranked opponent. Comparing Wilder's KO ratio to Wlad's is ridiculous.

                    Bert Cooper was beaten many times while still young and in his prime. No way would a 1980's/90's cruiserweight be able to live with today's giant heavyweights.
                    Last edited by kafkod; 11-16-2014, 10:34 PM.

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by LacedUp

                      So why are you trying to compare it to Lennox's when Lennox's chin was clearly better? I think his chin is pretty bad, but he's learned to protect it. Which is good I suppose. that's why he never throws bodyshots. That's why he steps back after a jab. He knows he doesn't take a shot well and he's adapted to it.
                      When did I compare their chins? What I said was that Lennox was knocked out in much more spectacular fashion. I think anybody that watched the fights would agree with that statement. Minus you of course.

                      With that said I believe two of Wlad's loses were based more so on stamina problems than him having a weak chin. And the reason he doesn't throw to the body is simply because he doesn't have to. And you can say what you want about Pulev. But he was forcing Wlad to do things that he usually doesn't do and one of them was jabbing to the body. And the other one was throwing left hooks.

                      With that said if you want to claim that Wlad has a weak chin then you also have to consider Lennox having one as well. And that is not necessarily my opinion but if you Google it you will see that there are plenty of list with supposedly weak chinned elite fighters on it and both of their names are on many of list.

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