George Foreman is the GOAT not Ali

[LacedUp]

AAAHH yes...

I do remember that now.

And there you have it. The "catch" I was talking about. Floyd Mayweather himself could do chicken better!

**** Sadler, the trainer who told Foreman to do nothing but go for a run and hit the heavybag because nobody could stand up to his punch.

Of course Ali would want Foreman to hire that guy

Seriously though, if Ali really wanted to make $$$, HE should have been the one to get his act together and fight Foreman regardless of trainer, that's Foreman's business.

Ali ducked Foreman rematch, like no other. Fact.

Lol that had nothing to do with it, which just shows once again that you don't know anything about it.

[jas]

Didn't a past his prime ali beat foreman?

[Elroy1]

Didn't a past his prime ali beat foreman?

What's a prime Ali?


Ali of the 60's was barely over 200lbs and inexperienced.

In my objective opinion, he would have been knocked out.

[Cloud]

I don't think Foreman is the Heavyweight GOAT. I do rate him six though and a definite, genuine ATG.

[LacedUp]

What's a prime Ali?


Ali of the 60's was barely over 200lbs and inexperienced.

In my objective opinion, he would have been knocked out.

Your opinion really doesn't matter though, does it?

Ali, Percheco, Dundee etc have all written in books that Ali wasn't the same as he was before exile.

Since these guys actually worked with him everyday, I feel it's probably a better source to ask them what they think as opposed to some online troll who's openly admitted that Ali is the guy he dislikes most in boxing.

So much so that you'll make up stories about threats and wife beating.

[Daddy T]

foreman should be ranked very high. I'd even just about accept somebody arguing for number 3 or 4 at least head to head. But he is clearly not the goat.

[steeluv]

A case can be made for George Foreman being the greatest heavyweight of all time.

1. in his prime, he only lost to Ali and Jimmy Young. The loss to Ali is suspect as Ali leaned on the malfunctioning ropes the entire fight while Foreman pressed all the action and dominated him. In a rematch Foreman would have KTFO Ali brutally.

2. he annihilated every single opponent of Ali who defeated Ali. Annihilated Ken Norton whom Ali lost to, annihilated Joe Frazier whom Ali lost to, annihilated common opponents better such as Chuvalo in 3 when Ali took him 12 UD, annihilated Ron Lyle in 5, Ali took 11, etc, etc.

3. Then Foreman came back in a whole 2nd career at age 38 spanning another full 10 years where he annihilated more people finishing with an unprecedented and mind blowing 76(68 KO's)-5 record where he destroyed Michael Moore and captured the heavyweight title again at an unprecedented age.

I think a clear case can be made for Foreman being the #1 GOAT at heavyweight, however at the minimum I can see some people having Ali, but Foreman at the minimum is #2 greatest of all time. The only thing against him is that he lost to the #1 guy in a suspect fight where the #1 guy used dishonorable cowardly tactics otherwise he would of been annihilated. In a rematch, Foreman who was owning Ali physically in that fight would have destroyed Ali.

To me he is the #1 heavyweight of all time.

you missed 4 he made the great george foreman grill to help fat americans to eat healthier and live longer

[steeluv]

A case can be made for George Foreman being the greatest heavyweight of all time.

1. in his prime, he only lost to Ali and Jimmy Young. The loss to Ali is suspect as Ali leaned on the malfunctioning ropes the entire fight while Foreman pressed all the action and dominated him. In a rematch Foreman would have KTFO Ali brutally.

2. he annihilated every single opponent of Ali who defeated Ali. Annihilated Ken Norton whom Ali lost to, annihilated Joe Frazier whom Ali lost to, annihilated common opponents better such as Chuvalo in 3 when Ali took him 12 UD, annihilated Ron Lyle in 5, Ali took 11, etc, etc.

3. Then Foreman came back in a whole 2nd career at age 38 spanning another full 10 years where he annihilated more people finishing with an unprecedented and mind blowing 76(68 KO's)-5 record where he destroyed Michael Moore and captured the heavyweight title again at an unprecedented age.

I think a clear case can be made for Foreman being the #1 GOAT at heavyweight, however at the minimum I can see some people having Ali, but Foreman at the minimum is #2 greatest of all time. The only thing against him is that he lost to the #1 guy in a suspect fight where the #1 guy used dishonorable cowardly tactics otherwise he would of been annihilated. In a rematch, Foreman who was owning Ali physically in that fight would have destroyed Ali.

To me he is the #1 heavyweight of all time.

Can some one tell Dan Raphael to get a Foreman Grill the fat piece of ****

[Weltschmerz]

Foreman beat Frazier, Lyle and Norton more convincingly than Ali, who lost to Frazier and Norton too. So yeah, we can rate him above Ali, even if Ali faced overall better opposition resume-wise. H2H we can rate Foreman above Ali too, as I believe Foreman would have killed Ali in a rematch.

I also think Foreman had a better career, considering his comeback defeating Moorer and becoming world champ at an older age. That was awesome.

[LacedUp]

Foreman beat Frazier, Lyle and Norton more convincingly than Ali, who lost to Frazier and Norton too. So yeah, we can rate him above Ali, even if Ali faced overall better opposition resume-wise. H2H we can rate Foreman above Ali too, as I believe Foreman would have killed Ali in a rematch.

I also think Foreman had a better career, considering his comeback defeating Moorer and becoming world champ at an older age. That was awesome.

Wow, some people are just ******ed beyond belief.

You're saying Ali has a better resume + he beat him in their fight, but you'd still rank him above Ali?