Sergey Kovalev vs. Jean Pascal

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  • Weebler I
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    #141
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    Originally posted by bojangles1987
    And on Sunday morning, Aducknis will vacate to "spend time with his family" and because "belts don't mean anything."
    Haymon might have the financial backing now to win a purse bid against Roc Nation. It would be interesting to see whether he would bother.

    Originally posted by Barcham
    Nothing to do with Haymon at all. The WBC made a lot of decisions like that at their last conference in Vegas in Dec 2014. They have been in discussions with the other sanctioning bodies in the goal of reducing the number of title holders and with the intention of having unification fights. The only fighter who was declared to be outside all of these regulations was Floyd Mayweather as he will be retiring soon and in deference to all the attention he brings to the sport. All other champions will be subject to random drug testing and mandatory defenses. These changes were brought in at the insistence of the new president of the WBC, Mauricio Sulaiman.

    It is very easy to keep up on news from the WBC, just subscribe to their newsletter and visit their website now and then. I find it amazing how many people like to sit back and attack and criticize the various sanctioning bodies but never take the time to really find out what is going on directly from their sites. Instead they choose to believe the rumours and speculation started by people who post on message boards who are basically repeating something another poster somewhere wrote that has no basis in fact.

    http://wbcboxing.com/wbceng/
    Man fk the WBC, they have discretionary line which allows them to do what they want in each one of their rules. In other words, they dont even have to stick to their own rules, so what's the point of them? and that line about Mayweather is b/s too, once you start treating fighters differently (basically over money) it becomes a joke.

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    • Barcham
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      #142
      Originally posted by Weebler I
      Haymon might have the financial backing now to win a purse bid against Roc Nation. It would be interesting to see whether he would bother.



      Man fk the WBC, they have discretionary line which allows them to do what they want in each one of their rules. In other words, they dont even have to stick to their own rules, so what's the point of them? and that line about Mayweather is b/s too, once you start treating fighters differently (basically over money) it becomes a joke.
      Why would he need to win a bid against Roc Nation? Kovalev is not with Roc Nation, he is with K2.

      All sanctioning bodies have the same exception in their charters as does any sport without a players' or athletes' union. They can all change the rules on the fly if they wish. As can just about any company that offers anything to the public for free or for pay. I guess you never read end user agreements for the software you install on your computer or smart phone or the websites you visit. Or your cellular contract or cable TV contract or just about anything else you might think of. Most of the contracts include a line that says something like "Terms and conditions may change at the discretion of 'XYZ' without notice."
      It's common practice.

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        #143
        My top 2 favorite fighters are about to retire or already have.

        Need new guys to root for. What's not to like about the Krusher?

        WAR KRUSHER KOVALEV!!

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          #144
          Originally posted by Barcham
          Why would he need to win a bid against Roc Nation? Kovalev is not with Roc Nation, he is with K2.
          Which one of Korobov or Quillin was with Roc Nation? HBO won't want Kovalev going to Sho to fight Stevenson so if they can have a word with Roc (which was said to be happening multiple times last year), then I expect they might do so.

          All sanctioning bodies have the same exception in their charters as does any sport without a players' or athletes' union. They can all change the rules on the fly if they wish. As can just about any company that offers anything to the public for free or for pay. I guess you never read end user agreements for the software you install on your computer or smart phone or the websites you visit. Or your cellular contract or cable TV contract or just about anything else you might think of. Most of the contracts include a line that says something like "Terms and conditions may change at the discretion of 'XYZ' without notice." It's common practice.
          I'm well aware of limitation clauses, however these chumps don't even have gumption to leave it as one line. The word "discretion" appears 101 times in their shitty rules and "sole discretion" 62 times. They don't even pretend to be obligated to do anything, and they sure as hell don't practice it, they just politically manoeuvre to their own financial benefit. Boxing fans are used to all of the negligent crap they pull, the list is long, there's no consistency and no accountability. Surprised to see a fan defend them, it's a rare thing for a reason.

          The only sanctioning body doing anything for the fans right now is the IBF in enforcing mandatories some of the time, and they're far from perfect themselves.
          Last edited by Weebler I; 03-12-2015, 04:41 PM.

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            #145

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                #147
                Originally posted by Weebler I
                Which one of Korobov or Quillin was with Roc Nation? HBO won't want Kovalev going to Sho to fight Stevenson so if they can have a word with Roc (which was said to be happening multiple times last year), then I expect they might do so.



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                Neither Korobov nor Quillin has anything to do with Roc Nation. Quillin is with Haymon, and I don't know who Korobov's promoter is. Roc Nation won the purse bid but does not represent either fighter.

                A Kovalev - Stevenson fight would likely go to purse bid as I cannot imagine Haymon allowing the fight to happen on HBO. If Roc Nation were to make and win the bid, I would not be surprised to see Stevenson vacate the title the way Quillin did last year.

                As for the sanctioning bodies, I really do not care what is in their constitutions. It's not like there is anything I can do about it. I just want to see champions defending their titles and when you have a champion like Kovalev or Golovkin, you have nothing to worry about there.
                Last edited by Barcham; 03-12-2015, 06:59 PM.

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                  #148
                  Kovalev is the best Light Heavyweight. He's more skilled than given credit and his power is legit. The way he made Hopkins his scared little bitch was amazing!

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                      #150
                      I don't know if it has already been posted or not, but this is a great breakdown of Kovalev's strengths and weaknesses:

                      Sergey Kovalev has dominated so far in his 26-fight, 23-knockout professional career. But that doesn’t mean his next opponent Jean Pascal has no hope. Bad Left Hook’s technique analyst Connor Ruebusch gives the gameplan for the Krusher’s demise.




                      This gif explains why I am somewhat worried about what Pascal can do, this Agnew attack is textbook Pascal:



                      Obviously Pascal has more speed and power than Agnew.
                      Last edited by Weebler I; 03-13-2015, 10:21 AM.

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