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  • Originally posted by TMTForever View Post
    floyd has defeated ten hofers when they were champions:

    1. genaro hernandez wbc 130
    2. Diego Corrales IBF 130
    3. jose Luis Castillo WBC 135
    4. Zab Judah IBF 147
    5. Ricky hatton IBF 140
    6. Oscar De la hoya 154 WBC
    7. Shane Mosley WBA 147
    8. Miguel Cotto WBA 154
    9. juan manuel marquez WBA/WBO 135
    10. Canelo Alvarez WBA/WBC 154
    zab judah and canelo are hall of famers?? hahahahaha

    genaro, corrales, castillo, and hatton aren't hof either.

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    • Originally posted by shade darkar View Post
      id probably agree with that, although i cant decide between roy jones and pacman. could have roy 1 and pac 2

      Yea those 2 are definitely neck and neck for the top spot, Floyd stays at 3rd no matter how you look at it.

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      • Originally posted by UTEP View Post
        Yea those 2 are definitely neck and neck for the top spot, Floyd stays at 3rd no matter how you look at it.
        not if you look at it from the eyes of historians and journalists. Maybe through the eyes of NSB posters such as yourself, yeah.

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        • Originally posted by Divine Hammer View Post
          zab judah and canelo are hall of famers?? hahahahaha

          genaro, corrales, castillo, and hatton aren't hof either.
          if barry mcguigan is hof then those guys will easily get in..

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          • Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
            talk to the ring voters-they have Floyd, roy and bhop ahead of Manny.
            Lots of respected people in the boxing world think this:
            Floyd didn't want to fight Manny. Lot's of risks came with it including losing his precious "0".

            You should have a link to those articles. Just to name a few who said similar words are: Holyfield, Larry Holmes, SRL, Tyson...... I think even some who voted in your link said the same.

            Take that to the bank!


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            Last edited by ADP02; 11-06-2014, 04:18 PM.

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            • Originally posted by TMTForever View Post
              shane mosley went from 135 to 147 and beat oscar so your still not making sense..floyd defeated 11 Hofers who were champions at the time he defeated them..you mentioned weight class i didn't..
              1) What does Mosley have to do with Marquez jumping those divisions to fight Floyd?

              2) Mosley fought at WW before fighting Oscar. Marquez was fighting at the lower weights and for a longer period.

              3) You didn't mention weight classes because it would shoot your whole weak argument to smithereens! You said that Floyd beat the champ Marquez but I pointed out that Marquez was NOT the WW champ. Not even close! So putting his name in that list is wrong! Unless you are a Floyd fan that likes to butter up his heroes resume!

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              • Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                Lots of respected people in the boxing world think this:
                Floyd didn't want to fight Manny. Lot's of risks came with it including losing his precious "0".

                You should have a link to those articles. Just to name a few who said similar words are: Holyfield, Larry Holmes, SRL,...... I think even some who voted in your link said the same.

                Take that to the bank!
                The Ring poll voters have made their choice Floyd, roy and BHop are ahead of Manny. why can't you just accept it?

                Manny fans like you are really sad. Here is Manny, from a 3rd world country, works his way to being the 3rd biggest ppv star in boxing history, is voted the 26th greatest fighter since wwII, and his fans are not happy with that. Most of you are such an ungrateful bunch of slobs.

                Its sad that you guys refuse to evaluate all fighters equally. Its as if you want to penalize Floyd for not fighting, manny, pwill, and Sergio yet not penalize Manny for not fighting Floyd, pwill and Sergio. What kind of biased garbage is that.

                Then whenever someone doesn't pick Manny as #1 a lot of you start calling those people racists, flowmos. black power Israelites, biased, not real fans, etc just because we evaluate every fighter equally and Manny isn't at the top.

                Why can't you just be satisfied with Manny at #26? A real boxing fan would be happy with this ranking given how many professional fighters there have been during this time.

                Those fighters you listed also finished lower than Floyd. Maybe they were just sticking up for a fellow fighter that also didn't crack the top 20?
                Last edited by The Big Dunn; 11-06-2014, 04:19 PM.

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                • Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
                  The Ring poll voters have made their choice Floyd, roy and BHop are ahead of Manny. why can't you just accept it?

                  Manny fans like you are really sad. Here is Manny, from a 3rd world country, works his way to being the 3rd biggest ppv star in boxing history, is voted the 26th greatest fighter since wwII, and his fans are not happy with that. Most of you are such an ungrateful bunch of slobs.

                  Its sad that you guys refuse to evaluate all fighters equally. Its as if you want to penalize Floyd for not fighting, manny, pwill, and Sergio yet not penalize Manny for not fighting Floyd, pwill and Sergio. What kind of biased garbage is that.

                  Then whenever someone doesn't pick Manny as #1 a lot of you start calling those people racists, flowmos. black power Israelites, biased, not real fans, etc just because we evaluate every fighter equally and Manny isn't at the top.

                  Why can't you just be satisfied with Manny at #26? A real boxing fan would be happy with this ranking given how many professional fighters there have been during this time.

                  Those fighters you listed also finished lower than Floyd. Maybe they were just sticking up for a fellow fighter that also didn't crack the top 20?

                  So a few journalists said on a given day before their careers are over something that you are happy about and now I see you put it under your pillow and look at it before going to bed every night.

                  Now, on my side, I have actual respected fighters who said that Floyd wanted no part of Manny. Manny was too risky. It could have taken away his precious "0". Once Floyd loses that "0", you would see those same journalists bringing Floyd down a couple of notches. I know that Floyd likes to cherry pick so that may never happen but that is why Floyd doesn't deserve to be anywhere close to what they put him.


                  As I said a while back to even Floyd fans that were saying that Manny was above Floyd and one of the top fighters of all time. You need to see their whole career. I said, it's too early and things can change and has. Call me when they retire.

                  So you have a list from journalists that can change their opinions, I have a list that is already in the history books. Floyd didn't fight Manny when it was a huge risk at Floyd's "0" and health!



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                  Last edited by ADP02; 11-06-2014, 04:32 PM.

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                  • Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
                    The Ring poll voters have made their choice Floyd, roy and BHop are ahead of Manny. why can't you just accept it?


                    Its sad that you guys refuse to evaluate all fighters equally. Its as if you want to penalize Floyd for not fighting, manny, pwill, and Sergio yet not penalize Manny for not fighting Floyd, pwill and Sergio. What kind of biased garbage is that.

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                    Im not aware of this Ring vote poll, was this poll done after Pac got ko'ed by JMM? The result would be distorted then if so.
                    Wasn't Pac FOTD and the talk of the town, so something must have changed.
                    Why should Pac fight PW and Sergio when Pac has already fought better fighters than Floyd has, yet Floyd wasn't penalized, still staying at no1 spot p4p.
                    And Pac has mostly beat common opponents more specturlary or just better. So why don't Floyd and his fans stop complaing, and just let Floyd fight Sergio instead of Cotto having to show FLoyd how its done. ONce Floyd beats them then we can talk. Because other than that that, Floyd is no action, so theres nothing to talk about.
                    Last edited by hugh grant; 11-06-2014, 04:35 PM.

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                    • Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                      So a few journalists said on a given day before their careers are over something that you are happy about and now I see you put it under your pillow and look at it before going to bed every night.

                      Now, on my side, I have actual respected fighters who said that Floyd wanted no part of Manny. Manny was too risky. It could have taken away his precious "0". Once Floyd loses that "0", you would see those same journalists bringing Floyd down a couple of notches. I know that Floyd likes to cherry pick so that may never happen but that is why Floyd doesn't deserve to be anywhere close to what they put him.


                      As I said a while back to even Floyd fans that were saying that Manny was above Floyd and one of the top fighters of all time. You need to see their whole career. I said, it's too early and things can change and has. Call me when they retire.

                      So you have a list from journalists that can change their opinions, I have a list that is already in the history books. Floyd didn't fight Manny when it was a huge risk at Floyd's "0" and health!



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                      You just can't get over the fact that your biased view isn't shared by anyone credible.

                      If you were a boxing fan you would understand that when your best wins are against a guy Floyd shutout (and KO'd you), a guy zahir raheem dominated after beating you, and a Barrera who many thought was on the downside prior to his beating Hamed, you are not going to get a lot of top 20 votes.

                      Can't you just be happy with 26th place?

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