Manny Pacquiao is Undeniably The Greatest Fighter of Our Era

[hugh grant]

The same tim you said lost to provo, wasn't a top p4p fighter? Maybe the voters read what you posted about tim before the rematch was signed and agreed with what you had previously posted about him.

If so, the tim win isn't that big a deal.

I don't know what is is you think I posted, but I knew Bradley was a top 10 p4p fighter before the first time Pac fought and beat Bradley, and now Bradley has lost to Pac a second time, Bradley is still a top 10 p4p fighter.

The fact that Bradley might have lost a close decision to Prov, don't change the fact that Pacs win over Bradley is better than Floyds win over Maidana. Probably because Bradley is more highly rated.

Pac was a ridiculed figure when he lost to JMM, so the poll is distorted. Pac coming back to beat Rios and Bradley proves Pac is no joke, only true champs recover from them Ko's. And that will be taken into consideration the next time a poll is made.

[doninlouisiana]

A generation is more than a decade. Manny won the fotd for the last decade. That's like winning the heisman-doesn't mean you will be the 1st pick in the draft.

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"That's like winning the Heisman"? Are you serious? Heisman is an annual award not one given 10 times every 100 years! Come on Big Dunn give credit where credit is due.

[The Big Dunn]

"That's like winning the Heisman"? Are you serious? Heisman is an annual award not one given 10 times every 100 years! Come on Big Dunn give credit where credit is due.

You missed the point. Winning the heisman is a great accomplishment but it doesn't mean you will be the top draft pick.

Winning fotd is a great accomplishment, it doesn't mean you are going to be picked as the best in your generation.

In no way was I lessening the award.

[The Big Dunn]

I don't know what is is you think I posted, but I knew Bradley was a top 10 p4p fighter before the first time Pac fought and beat Bradley, and now Bradley has lost to Pac a second time, Bradley is still a top 10 p4p fighter.

The fact that Bradley might have lost a close decision to Prov, don't change the fact that Pacs win over Bradley is better than Floyds win over Maidana. Probably because Bradley is more highly rated.

Pac was a ridiculed figure when he lost to JMM, so the poll is distorted. Pac coming back to beat Rios and Bradley proves Pac is no joke, only true champs recover from them Ko's. And that will be taken into consideration the next time a poll is made.

The vote was taken after all that so it's already taken into consideration. So you need another excuse or just be an adult an accept the validity of the rankings.

[shade darkar]

The vote was taken after all that so it's already taken into consideration. So you need another excuse or just be an adult an accept the validity of the rankings.

lol at dunn putting all his eggs in the ring voters basket. if the ring voters said it, then it must be right.........

[DeadLikeMe]

So undeniable it requires 50 pages

[hugh grant]

The vote was taken after all that so it's already taken into consideration. So you need another excuse or just be an adult an accept the validity of the rankings.

The poll had Floyd ahead of Pac even after his poor performance against Maidana. Floyd don't seem to be penalized does he?

Floyd has the momentum now, just like Pac had when he was FOTD and Floyd was the joke figure fighting once every 18months and cherry pickin his return opponents like bloated JMM, and taking layoffs. Pac had the momentum then.

But the poll is just a snapshot in time, no awards or honours in the bag for Floyd. When Floyd and Pac are retired, Pac will have FOTD accolades on his CV. Pac has fought better fighters, yet wasn't p4p no1 by ring magazine.
But history will be more fair im sure, so Floyd has nothing in the bag, it can change, im sure it will.

[doninlouisiana]

You missed the point. Winning the heisman is a great accomplishment but it doesn't mean you will be the top draft pick.

Winning fotd is a great accomplishment, it doesn't mean you are going to be picked as the best in your generation.

In no way was I lessening the award.

Point well taken BD.

[The Big Dunn]

lol at dunn putting all his eggs in the ring voters basket. if the ring voters said it, then it must be right.........

I'm not doing anything of the sort. I'm trying to get you and everyone else to see that there is a group of 20 objective, unbiased boxing journalists/historians that collectively disagree with you, the TS and anyone who agrees with this thread.

What is so wrong with that? The better question is what kind of faulty logic are you, the TS and any poster agreeing with you guys using to determine who is the greatest of this generation?

[The Big Dunn]

The poll had Floyd ahead of Pac even after his poor performance against Maidana. Floyd don't seem to be penalized does he?

Floyd has the momentum now, just like Pac had when he was FOTD and Floyd was the joke figure fighting once every 18months and cherry pickin his return opponents like bloated JMM, and taking layoffs. Pac had the momentum then.

But the poll is just a snapshot in time, no awards or honours in the bag for Floyd. When Floyd and Pac are retired, Pac will have FOTD accolades on his CV. Pac has fought better fighters, yet wasn't p4p no1 by ring magazine.
But history will be more fair im sure, so Floyd has nothing in the bag, it can change, im sure it will.

Winning a fight that was tougher than expected isn't something any credible person uses to knock someone. If that is what you are doing manny would still get penalized more because he lost fights to jmm and morales he was expected to win.

That's the thing-you have to use a set of valid criteria in your analysis. All you've done is just form a biased opinion and use only variables that support that opinion.