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  • #51
    Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
    Your post makes no sense on many levels.

    First of all, Canelo nor Cotto will be guaranteed what Floyd made so the numbers don't have to be as high as Floyd's to break even. Secondly, if Canelo (Mexican) fights Cotto(Puerto Rican), both sides will be lining up for this fight NOT Floyd vs cherry pick.

    Finally, there are no names in the horizon that can make Floyd/Showtime confident if Canelo vs Cotto come to terms. Everyone besides Manny do not draw as well as a Canelo or a Cotto.
    i didnt even mention breaking even or making money, all i said was if canelo is such a draw why is he getting 300 buys when hes been on the biggest stage vs the number 1 draw of all time. So my point stands mexicans dont care to pay for him but theyll love him for free

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    • #52
      Originally posted by HanzGruber View Post
      i didnt even mention breaking even or making money, all i said was if canelo is such a draw why is he getting 300 buys when hes been on the biggest stage vs the number 1 draw of all time. So my point stands mexicans dont care to pay for him but theyll love him for free
      Canelo lost that fight against Floyd for one and secondly, his first fight back were 2 losers mixing it up. The second one was against someone who does NOT have a big fan base, doesn't have a fan friendly style and most casuals never heard of him. Still, those numbers meet expectations and didn't hurt Showtime as much as Floyd's relatively bad numbers would.

      Even casuals know Cotto. Then combine it with both are now on a winning streak and its a fight between 2 who have a decent fan base and are from rivaling (boxing) countries it makes sense. They don't need to do as well as Floyd vs ? because Floyd is guaranteed $32 million whereas Cotto nor Canelo will be guaranteed those kind of numbers.


      If they come to terms then it's a no brainer. The risk falls on Floyd/Showtime. Even promoting the fight, who are they going to get to do as good a job as Tope Rank or GB? To many variables.


      Oh yeah, now add it being in May .... would definitely be a plus to Canelo vs Cotto PPV numbers.



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      Last edited by ADP02; 11-01-2014, 02:31 PM.

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      • #53
        Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
        Canelo lost that fight against Floyd for one and secondly, his first fight back were 2 losers mixing it up. The second one was against someone who does NOT have a big fan base, doesn't have a fan friendly style and most casuals never heard of him. Still, those numbers meet expectations and didn't hurt Showtime as much as Floyd's relatively bad numbers would.

        Even casuals know Cotto. Then combine it with both are now on a winning streak and its a fight between 2 who have a decent fan base and are from rivaling (boxing) countries it makes sense. They don't need to do as well as Floyd vs ? because Floyd is guaranteed $32 million whereas Cotto nor Canelo will be guaranteed those kind of numbers.


        If they come to terms then it's a no brainer. The risk falls on Floyd/Showtime. Even promoting the fight, who are they going to get to do as good a job as Tope Rank or GB? To many variables.


        Oh yeah, now add it being in May .... would definitely be a plus to Canelo vs Cotto PPV numbers.



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        you keep talking about money lol, my original comment was mexicans care more about floyd

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        • #54
          Originally posted by Hougigo View Post
          Mayweather doesn't really care, he's getting 32 mil regardless. Showtime is the one who should be worried
          Well said, this is Espinoza making a power play that he's ready to stand his ground but I'm sure he knows Showtime is in a tough spot if HBO pursues that May date.

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          • #55
            I really think Floyd cares about canelo possibly fighting may 2nd. Dude is GUARANTEED at least 32 mils, so he's getting paid regardless. Floyd has two possible match up that could up a potential canelo - cotto fight; a fight with pacquiao or a rematch with cotto. A rematch with cotto would derail all Canelo's hope of a may 2th ppv fight, and also is a fight that would surpass, I believe, 1.2 mils ppv buys.

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            • #56
              Before anything else...Floyd still has Rahman brothers problems

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              • #57
                Originally posted by twosweethooks View Post
                HA ! The Choice between JR vs his cherry Pick

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                COTTO CANELO is simple

                Cotto and Canelo all day long !!!!!!

                Jr has gotten thru to many casual fans as a fraud something we have known for a long time ,,,,,,,,,,,,,and the Cotto Canelo fight will be ACTION PACKED !!!!

                People are tired of May JR. Sick of his demands so he is insured of a win.
                u mean the fight of the 2 people who got beat up by floyd? what will the ppv be floyd better victory canelo vs cotto we find out tonight.By way when are u guys going to hold pac to same standard he didnt just get knocked out anymore

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by WombBat View Post
                  Not a good idea unless Canelo - cotto falls thru which is possible
                  Floyd Manny would be the ticket to run Canelo Cotto off , and Canelo threatening to over shadow Floyd on that weekend might be the motivation for May to say fck you its my date , only Floyd Manny will do it so both groups wanting that date could be a good thing .

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by Cinci Champ View Post
                    u mean the fight of the 2 people who got beat up by floyd? what will the ppv be floyd better victory canelo vs cotto we find out tonight.By way when are u guys going to hold pac to same standard he didnt just get knocked out anymore
                    That poster was all over them saying Cotto and Canelo would both stop Floyd badly , he is just a full of sht hater .

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by HanzGruber View Post
                      you keep talking about money lol, my original comment was mexicans care more about floyd
                      You got to be the number one moron if you truly belive that

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