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  • Mr.Fantastic
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    #141
    Originally posted by Beater_of_ass
    Where did I say Cotto wasn't a diva? He can say he wants to fight in NY, Canelo hasn't done **** since losing to Floyd to demand anything. He wants the MW title and Cotto holds it, he should take it from the champ in the champions home turf. I really don't see a problem with that, why are you guys so shook for it to be in NY?

    Where did I say the Bradely fight was good? I said the Bradley fight WHICH SUCKS, but it's out there. As in, it's a **** fight but it's another option for Cotto if Canelo thinks he's some sort of draw because he did one great PPV. All it meant was 2.2 million people (probably much more because of bars/parties) saw him get clowned in the ring. Learn to read, I thought you were Mexican stop trying to be like Floyd.

    If they fight GGG of course they'll meet him at a catchweight. They both get their asses kicked at any weight, who cares. In closing, learn to read instead of PMS'ing because you didn't comprehend what was typed.
    You came off as if he isn't or as big as Canelo. Hasn't done shit? He beat Angulo & Lara and if you want to say that, just know Cotto after Mayweather hasn't made much like you make it seem. He lost to Trout(someone Canelo beat), Delvin Rodriguez in a predictable fight, and let's not forget Maravilla who was inactive on top of needing a catch weight.

    I can also question on why are you guys so shook for it to be in Vegas? Isn't that where most big fights happen? Tito didn't have a problem to go there.

    I said your fellow fans.

    Obviously you didn't comprehend mine.

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    • radioraheem
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      #142
      Originally posted by hhs661
      This, or maybe Floyd fighting in Vegas might have something to do with it as well.

      I for one don't see why a city like Chicago isn't ever talked about. Great sports town. Has a variety of Mexicans and PRs and is a neutral city. But I figured Cotto wouldn't let canelo dictate the date, location, venue etc rtf while he just sits back and says, "yes, sir."
      Yes. The hatred towards him won't allow them to consider that though.

      I hadn't even thought of Chicago either to be honest. That's a good point you brought up.

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      • radioraheem
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        #143
        Originally posted by Mr.Fantastic
        You came off as if he isn't or as big as Canelo. Hasn't done shit? He beat Angulo & Lara and if you want to say that, just know Cotto after Mayweather hasn't made much like you make it seem. He lost to Trout(someone Canelo beat), Delvin Rodriguez in a predictable fight, and let's not forget Maravilla who was inactive on top of needing a catch weight.

        I can also question on why are you guys so shook for it to be in Vegas? Isn't that where most big fights happen? Tito didn't have a problem to go there.

        I said your fellow fans.

        Obviously you didn't comprehend mine.

        No one is really shook for it to be in Vegas. But there is a clear and obvious problem with Vegas -- it favors Canelo HEAVILY. The venue will be jam packed with Mexicans, so much so that the fight might as well be held in the middle of Mexico. Canelo gets the advantage, and Cotto isn't going to let it go down like that. So forget about Vegas, and also forget about Texas.

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        • Beater_of_ass
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          #144
          Originally posted by Mr.Fantastic
          You came off as if he isn't or as big as Canelo. Hasn't done shit? He beat Angulo & Lara and if you want to say that, just know Cotto after Mayweather hasn't made much like you make it seem. He lost to Trout(someone Canelo beat), Delvin Rodriguez in a predictable fight, and let's not forget Maravilla who was inactive on top of needing a catch weight.

          I can also question on why are you guys so shook for it to be in Vegas? Isn't that where most big fights happen? Tito didn't have a problem to go there.

          I said your fellow fans.

          Obviously you didn't comprehend mine.
          Beating the MW champion of the world, even if he was a cripple ****s all over a lucky win over Lara and a D class punching bag. I'll repeat it, Canelo hasn't done **** since losing to Floyd. His best wins over Trout and Lara could have gone either way and like I said a sparring session with a Margarito fighter who is actually worse than Margarito means nothing to me or anyone else. Angulo was DONE after Kirkland beat him. Canelo hasn't done **** he has no title and that's why he wants to fight Cotto who is the MW champion. If Canelo wanted to have some say then he should have fought the cripple first, he wouldn't have beat him though.

          Cotto's had a problem fighting in Vegas. He fought Margarito, Manny and Floyd there, how many times has Canelo not fought outside of Vegas or Texas? Yeah, he's a b*tch who can't fight in his hometown, he's worse than ****ing Andre Ward. As I said it before, I don't care where they fight Canelo looks like an amateur at any arena, but he wants to talk a big game for a guy whose best career performance is getting his ass kicked by Floyd.

          You lumped me in with the other fans and even called me a stan which you know damn well I'm not. When you make dumbass assumptions and group people together you make your entire point invalid. I comprehended exactly what you typed, what you wrote though was ****** as **** however.

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          • J Silky Slim Mo
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            #145
            It's simple. Cotto wants it in June, then it happens in June unless he's willing to fight in May. Cotto is the champ and Canelo will just have to understand you can't demand the champ to play by your rules. You have to fight wherever the champ decides. I don't think Canelo wants it. He is determined to take Cinco de Mayo away from Mayweather. Not gonna happen. Mayweather is fighting on that day...PERIOD! Going up against Mayweather on that day is a foolish game. Team Canelo need to make better business decisions and take the June date that's open and stop trying to throw weight around or you will lose against Mayweather twice but this time in pay per view buys. Don't test the Cash Cow. Making $$ is above personal conflict. Some how, he will manage to mess up a very good possibility of breaking the 1 million mark in June. Be smart! Canelo probably should be fighting in June and December anyway. But, once Mayweather leaves...Cinco de Mayo is his and nobody will push numbers strong enough to boot him out. Not even Pac and he doesn't want those dates.
            Last edited by J Silky Slim Mo; 11-02-2014, 10:29 AM.

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            • MrRolltide91
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              #146
              Originally posted by radioraheem
              No one is really shook for it to be in Vegas. But there is a clear and obvious problem with Vegas -- it favors Canelo HEAVILY. The venue will be jam packed with Mexicans, so much so that the fight might as well be held in the middle of Mexico. Canelo gets the advantage, and Cotto isn't going to let it go down like that. So forget about Vegas, and also forget about Texas.
              There's a better chance the fight being in vegas than texas

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              • jcj0427
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                #147
                Originally posted by Beater_of_ass
                Beating the MW champion of the world, even if he was a cripple ****s all over a lucky win over Lara and a D class punching bag. I'll repeat it, Canelo hasn't done **** since losing to Floyd. His best wins over Trout and Lara could have gone either way and like I said a sparring session with a Margarito fighter who is actually worse than Margarito means nothing to me or anyone else. Angulo was DONE after Kirkland beat him. Canelo hasn't done **** he has no title and that's why he wants to fight Cotto who is the MW champion. If Canelo wanted to have some say then he should have fought the cripple first, he wouldn't have beat him though.

                Cotto's had a problem fighting in Vegas. He fought Margarito, Manny and Floyd there, how many times has Canelo not fought outside of Vegas or Texas? Yeah, he's a b*tch who can't fight in his hometown, he's worse than ****ing Andre Ward. As I said it before, I don't care where they fight Canelo looks like an amateur at any arena, but he wants to talk a big game for a guy whose best career performance is getting his ass kicked by Floyd.

                You lumped me in with the other fans and even called me a stan which you know damn well I'm not. When you make dumbass assumptions and group people together you make your entire point invalid. I comprehended exactly what you typed, what you wrote though was ****** as **** however.
                LOL. and Cotto has? Getting outboxed by Trout, beating a bum in Delvin, and beating up a ****** up Sergio is not exactly eye-opening. At least Canelo didn't lose since losing to Mayweather.

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                • batista84
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                  #148
                  Originally posted by big_james10
                  If they fight, it will be held in June, just like I said it would. Cotto dictates the terms because he has more options than Alvarez. Cotto, unlike Alvarez, is not ****** enough to try to trump Mayweather. It will be held in either New York or Las Vegas. Texas is practicially Canelo's hometown and Cotto won't be ****** enough to fight there.

                  After Cotto KO's Alvarez, all the clowns on this site will ciaim that Cotto either used drugs or unfairly held all the advantages or some other such nonsense just as they do with every Mayweather fight. The truth is Cotto will win simply because Alvarez is not that good. If Matthew Hatton can hurt him, Cotto will stop him. Since it won't go the distance, Alvarez won't get a gift decision the way he did against Trout, Lara and almost did against Mayweather.
                  Styles makes fights, Cotto moves a lot in and out, gets in to punch and then gets out, truth of the matter is that he's an excellent tactician but if Canelo catches him good it's over, and Canelo has been there with 3 of the most slickest boxers on this time Trout, Mayweather and Lara.

                  You could argue that Lara won the fight but it was a close one, and there were some rounds where Lara was afraid of Canelo you could tell by that upper that cutted him above the eye. Cotto is a good mover but Lara is a Hell of a Mover, Canelo is gonna catch him and Cotto is gonna go down, easy as that.

                  Jose Cotto hurted him when he was 17........he's 24, been there with the best of the best and he hasn't been hurt, believe me Canelo has a solid chin.

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                  • Beater_of_ass
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                    #149
                    Originally posted by jcj0427
                    LOL. and Cotto has? Getting outboxed by Trout, beating a bum in Delvin, and beating up a ****** up Sergio is not exactly eye-opening. At least Canelo didn't lose since losing to Mayweather.
                    Beating the lineal MW champion of the world, crippled or not is better than anything Canelo has done since. He's at least looked better in every fight than Canelo, with the exception of Angulo and a paralyzed Sergio is 10x's the fighter Angulo is.

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                    • icha
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                      #150
                      seems like cotto also has a network contract with hbo, no wonder why espinoza was bashing his ppv numbers and team floyd doesnt even mention his name as a possibility..
                      after all he may not have other big options besides canelo, of course unless he wants to go get peanuts vs GGG...

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