Is Froch an ATG

[D-MiZe]

Froch will fight Golovkin when the fight makes sense in monetary terms. That's all that is stopping the fight from happening.

Don't be bitter that life exists outside of the US.

[RubenSonny]

Agree with pretty much everything.

If Ward can sort out his isses he'll more than likely solidify his spot as the greatest SMW ever. I thought he would have already by now.

I do rank more than resume but resume mostly. Ability and skills come into aswell.

I thought Dirrell won but could have gone either way I thought. Dirrell lost it for himself.

As for Toney-Froch of course I'd definitely pick Toney but Tobey struggled numerous times with much lesser fighters than Froch so you never know. Froch is a tough out for anyone IMO other than Roy Jones and I guess Ward but Ward was feeling the pace late in that fight.

You have lost your mind.

[arraamis]

i noticed someone earlier saying Froch isn't an ATG,I was just wondering what everybody else thought..

Froch may have lost to Andre Ward but it was a hard fought fight for both men.

Froch has an ATG Resume with only one loss

How come the same person that said Froch isn't an ATG would say that Tommy Hearns who was knocked out by a better fighter is an ATG

Froch is a boxing great .... no where near a ATG, by great none the less.

[IronDanHamza]

You have lost your mind.

Which part? Toney having issues with Froch or Froch not being an easy fight gor most SMW's?

I don't know with Toney, like I said, I've seen him struggle too many times with poor fighters, worse than Froch. Like I said though I'd still pick Toney to win comfortably I just don't rule Froch out.

As for the second part, SMW's pretty weak. So going off the top of my head but I don't know who I'd pick to beat Froch with ease or without any issues. Roy Jones, Ward, not sure who else?

Hopkins and McCallum hypothetically if they campaigned at 168 I'd pick to win with ease but neither did.

[Ringlife]

I would say he is a hall of famer but not an ATG fighter. He is one of my favorite fighters right now.

[RubenSonny]

Which part? Toney having issues with Froch or Froch not being an easy fight gor most SMW's?

I don't know with Toney, like I said, I've seen him struggle too many times with poor fighters, worse than Froch. Like I said though I'd still pick Toney to win comfortably I just don't rule Froch out.

As for the second part, SMW's pretty weak. So going off the top of my head but I don't know who I'd pick to beat Froch with ease or without any issues. Roy Jones, Ward, not sure who else?

Hopkins and McCallum hypothetically if they campaigned at 168 I'd pick to win with ease but neither did.

Froch has wins over mediocre fighters and struggled against a fossilised shot Johnson as well as deserving to lose against Durrell who never beat anybody, he looked terrible against Kessler both times and lost the first one, he was losing to an absolutely trash fighter in Groves. An unfocused Toney does whatever he wants with him.

[New England]

when did this rumor that ward struggled late in teh froch fight come up?

you guys gotta stop listening to freaking jim watt. ward won the 12th, IIRC. at the very least, it was close. the idea that froch won it clearly, and that ward was tiring, is just ridiculous.

you score a fight on who lands the clean punches. when froch's only chance is to knock you out, you aren't going to be constantly engaging. that doesn't mean you're tired, it means you won the first 10 rounds of the fight.




ward is the greatest smw of the era. he dominated froch in every sense of the word. froch was ready to retire, and looked visibly humbled after the fight. you're crazy to say anything to the contrary.


we can go through froch's resume in greater detail, if you'd like.

pascal was at the wrong weight
taylor was shot
abraham is a limited fighter
johnson was at the wrong weight, and shot
yusaf mack was at the wrong weight, shot, and always ******
lucian bute is the most overrated fighter of the last 10 years, and his overrating was in direct response to ward hatred.
froch needed a rematchw ith groves. froch was literally out on his feet in the first fight.

he lost to ward, and kessler in the first fight. he beat a clearly faded kessler in the rematch. he's expressed that he's got no interest in even fighting ward again.


he's overrated by euros as a backlash against the greatness of the prince. it is what it is.

[HughJass]

when did this rumor that ward struggled late in teh froch fight come up?

you guys gotta stop listening to freaking jim watt. ward won the 12th, IIRC. at the very least, it was close. the idea that froch won it clearly, and that ward was tiring, is just ridiculous.

you score a fight on who lands the clean punches. when froch's only chance is to knock you out, you aren't going to be constantly engaging.




ward is the greatest smw of the era. he dominated froch in every sense of the word. froch was ready to retire, and looked visibly humbled after the fight. you're crazy to say anything to the contrary.


we can go through froch's resume in greater detail, if you'd like.

pascal was at the wrong weight
taylor was shot
abraham is a limited fighter
johnson was at the wrong weight, and shot
yusaf mack was at the wrong weight, shot, and always ******
lucian bute is the most overrated fighter of the last 10 years, and his overrating was in direct response to ward hatred.
froch needed a rematchw ith groves. froch was literally out on his feet in the first fight.

he lost to ward, and kessler in the first fight. he beat a clearly faded kessler in the rematch.


he's overrated by euros as a backlash against the greatness of the prince. it is what it is.

"Our" Carl put the poopies up Andre.

[New England]

Froch will fight Golovkin when the fight makes sense in monetary terms. That's all that is stopping the fight from happening.

Don't be bitter that life exists outside of the US.

british accountants.

our carl is the cash cow. all roads lead to wembley.

[SkillspayBills]

Not an ATG. But without a shadow of a doubt he is a first ballot HOF. Froch's resume is literally a who's who of everyone in or around his weight and to only suffer two losses? Definitely a HOF that deserves the praise he gets.