Dissecting Golovkin's MW Reign

[Daddy T]

people take too much offense when somebody says he has the same number of defenses as hagler or whatever. Nobody is saying he has a better reign than hagler or even anything close. It's just a statistic. What are people supposed to do when they noticed the numbers just ignore them?

He's had a good reign so far and has destroyed all before him, some pretty decent contenders in amongst them. But has yet to beat a real marquee name like a canelo or cotto.

What's hard to get?

[soul_survivor]

Rosado was the only guy willing to take the fight at the time, he has to defend against someone.

You seem pretty high on N'Jikam, too high imo. Once Golovkin connects he is done, he's a decent fighter but not one who will provide a challenge to Golovkin.



Moving up is not the best way to improve his MW reign, which is what your thread concerns.

N'Jikam is still better than Stevens, which is when that fight should have happened. But it didn't. He's also better than Ishida.

I don't see any real evidence that N'Dam or Murray are better than what he's beaten.

they'd be better than Stevens, Rosado, Ishida, at the very leats, they're middleweights.

N'Dam, maybe. I'd be interested in that fight if N'Dam wants it now. Murray? Hell no. He's no better than Macklin or Geale.

Murray is a better boxer than macklin and has a better chin than both. His biggest problem is his inability to finish a fight strong.

people take too much offense when somebody says he has the same number of defenses as hagler or whatever. Nobody is saying he has a better reign than hagler or even anything close. It's just a statistic. What are people supposed to do when they noticed the numbers just ignore them?

He's had a good reign so far and has destroyed all before him, some pretty decent contenders in amongst them. But has yet to beat a real marquee name like a canelo or cotto.

What's hard to get?

No offence at all, I'm just saying this so people don't get too carried away. GG is an excellent fighter but has had a very, very mediocre title reign.

[NEETzsche]

murray literally said he'd have to take a baseball bat into the ring to beat golovkin

[jas]

can he equal bhops record?

[soul_survivor]

murray literally said he'd have to take a baseball bat into the ring to beat golovkin

not saying he beats him, just saying he is a better opponent than some 70% of gggs title run

[Dr Rumack]

I haven't heard any serious person say he has Hagler status (yet). Golovkin is having a great career so far and will only build his legacy if what we see continues. I think he should unify at 160 and then move up.

This.

I don't hear anyone talking about him like he's another Monzon or Hagler. He's the best around today which is a different manner entirely.

[NEETzsche]

not saying he beats him, just saying he is a better opponent than some 70% of gggs title run

yeah but how is he supposed to actually get him into the ring? he can't force him after all. it's a sorry state of affairs when challengers are ducking champions

[soul_survivor]

This.

I don't hear anyone talking about him like he's another Monzon or Hagler. He's the best around today which is a different manner entirely.

watch more sports/boxing shows

[soul_survivor]

can he equal bhops record?

yeah probably, thing is though, hops did it and ended up with all the belts. if GGG does the same, I'd rate him highly.

[Black Barty]

Now, I want a proper BOXING discussion, none of this fan boy crap where some people just think GGG is God and will not debate or discuss beyond that point or idiotic haters who can't see beyond racial, ethnic etc hatred.

Now I confess, I didn't know much about GGG before his Proksa fight some 2 years ago, however I did know he was this big central Asian puncher with dynamite in both hands. What I was not prepared for was just how good he was in terms of all round ability, something that just can't be denied. He moves well, can cut off the ring, know when to throw punches and how many of them he needs to throw, rather than falling in love with his power and getting wild (see Jackson, McClelan, Benn etc).

Having said all that, GGG has equaled Hagler's record of 12 title defences...and that's sad because Hagler's run as champion was so far superior that it's almost laughable that these two fighters, one a certified ATG and the other a champion who has only just started working his way into the upper echelons of the MW division, should ever be compared. But they will be. It's the way of the boxing press, to start calling for historical comparisons where there are none.

He won his "championship" after Sturm was promoted to the ridiculous WBA super champion status and he won it off of a career light middleweight. But that is the way of many modern champions, however, since then, he has fought other career light middleweights, has-beens and guys who should never have gotten a title shot. Along the way he's picked up the ridiculous IBo belt.

Since his arrival on HBO some two years ago, he has had 8 bouts, only 2 of which have come against legitimate contenders, those being Geale (former champ) and Macklin. Were Rosado and Ishida really worthy of title defences? Was Curtis Stevens, who was on the rebound of a once promising career more worthy than say...N'Jikam? That's a fight that was available and still is.

I know QUillin doesn't look like he has the balls to face anyone with a pulse and the timing for Martinez was all wrong. It's a weak reign by a dominant fighter. The Cotto fight may happen but I think GGG needs to step it up and take no **** from his promotional team, get him Murray, N'Jikam, take a massive pay cut for Cotto, move up to 168 for Ward/Froch and not Junior.

This is what I think anyway.

So if I don't think GGG is an overrated bum, then I'm racist? LOL.

And you're actually accusing GGG of avoiding N'Jikam? Seriously? That's comedy cold right there. And the fact that N'Jikam once passed on a mandatory shot because he would have had to fight GGG makes it even funnier.

As for Sturm... GGG made quick work of the guy who beat him and got robbed.