Al Haymon's Contracts

[Beater_of_ass]

What you are not understanding is that the OTHER guys have not created new stars in years! There's very little difference. And there's a reason(s) why NONE Of them have been able to create a new PPV star in years.

Canelo and Chavez are PPV attractions so... they have created PPV stars. You're once again, wrong. And GGG will be on PPV within a year, so there is another one.

[radioraheem]

Why do you keep talking about Thurman. What's your excuse for Berto, Broner, Khan, DSG... That one star GBP has made is still more than the zero Haymon has, that's my point. There is nothing to defend so just stop.

As for Haymon I was never on the bandwagon when he left HBO like a lot of people on here were. I knew he was a bull**** artist from the start, when all I heard was he gets his fighters the most money. That's not smart business, and money is always better when it's fair and equal for everyone because it affects everything. Floyd gets all the PPV money on Showtime, no one else gets to be the star so when he leaves you have literally nothing. Long-term vision is always better than short, sighted, me first thinking.

At least Oscar and Arum... they don't say they get their fighters money first, they say we make fights fans want to watch. Because when fans get fights they want to watch this crazy thing happens where people spend more money and in turn Arum and Oscar make more money. Look at how the PS4/Xbox One launch fiasco happened, MS was ripping people off and charged MORE money but Sony offered more power for less money and they mopped the floor with them. It's not different here, people are tuning out Floyd and tuning in more and more to guys like GGG. Speaking of GGG there is a PPV star in the making, another one by HBO, you can't tell me if doesn't face Chavez, Froch or Ward it doesn't do big numbers ESPECIALLY Chavez.

That is nonsense. If it were true Pacquaio would NOT be fighting Algieri. But fact is, Arum wants to keep his profits in-house. And is uninterested in splitting money and doing business with Golden Boy. And it doesn't matter who Pacquaio fights, because like Mayweather, Pacquaio has a guaranteed multi fight contract with HBO via Top Rank. So Pacquaio is going to get a purse of up to $20 million no matter who he fights. Doing this for the fans?

[radioraheem]

Canelo and Chavez are PPV attractions so... they have created PPV stars. You're once again, wrong. And GGG will be on PPV within a year, so there is another one.

Canelo is no PPV attraction. You must have forgotten that Canelo vs. Clottey was not scheduled for PPV. He got demoted. And good luck on seeing GGG on PPV next year.

You seem to not understand business and facts. PPV numbers are SPIRALING down consistently! And that includes numbers for guys like Pacquaio and Mayweather, the two biggest cash cows.

[Francis M.]

I need to catch up on this thread. Is haymon a crook or not?

[Beater_of_ass]

That is nonsense. If it were true Pacquaio would NOT be fighting Algieri. But fact is, Arum wants to keep his profits in-house. And is uninterested in splitting money and doing business with Golden Boy. And it doesn't matter who Pacquaio fights, because like Mayweather, Pacquaio has a guaranteed multi fight contract with HBO via Top Rank. So Pacquaio is going to get a purse of up to $20 million no matter who he fights. Doing this for the fans?

Arum wants to keep his profits in house yet Algieri isn't a Top Rank fighter. When Cotto fought Martinez, Martinez wasn't signed to Top Rank. Arum tried to make Chavez vs Froch and GGG, neither of those guys are signed to Top Rank except for Chavez. So, you're stupid keep fights in house comment is proven wrong yet AGAIN, and I didn't even mention Cotto/Canelo.

Having a minimum guarantee doesn't mean you get to fight anyone, HBO still has to approve the matchup. What really is funny you complain about Manny's minimum purse, while Floyd has a higher one so which is it? Is it bad to have a guarantee or is it good for the fighter to have one, make up your mind because Manny and Floyd are in the same boat in that case.

[Beater_of_ass]

Canelo is no PPV attraction. You must have forgotten that Canelo vs. Clottey was not scheduled for PPV. He got demoted. And good luck on seeing GGG on PPV next year.

You seem to not understand business and facts. PPV numbers are SPIRALING down consistently! And that includes numbers for guys like Pacquaio and Mayweather, the two biggest cash cows.

Canelo isn't a PPV attraction, who got Floyd over the 2 million buy mark compared to 700k with Maidana? You guys are so sad it's hillarious, you'll brag about that 2.2 million buyrate with Floyd but take Floyd out of the picture and he isn't a PPV attraction.

[Divine Hammer]

I need to catch up on this thread. Is haymon a crook or not?

haymon is literally running a mafia in boxing. he is quite possibly worse than don king ever was.

[radioraheem]

Canelo isn't a PPV attraction, who got Floyd over the 2 million buy mark compared to 700k with Maidana? You guys are so sad it's hillarious, you'll brag about that 2.2 million buyrate with Floyd but take Floyd out of the picture and he isn't a PPV attraction.

What shows if he's a PPV attraction is the numbers he does without another huge superstar. His PPV numbers without Mayweather have been LOW. So low that the network was forced to demote him to regular TV instead of PPV. This is a fact.

Floyd though, he's done high numbers even without a superstar. Same for Pacquaio. Again, they are the only true PPV stars in boxing.

[manoamano]

What's funny is that none of the Haymon fighters have a legit (different copies signed to cover his ass) copy of their contract. Bet not even Floyd.

[SplitSecond]

Canelo is no PPV attraction. You must have forgotten that Canelo vs. Clottey was not scheduled for PPV. He got demoted. And good luck on seeing GGG on PPV next year.

You seem to not understand business and facts. PPV numbers are SPIRALING down consistently! And that includes numbers for guys like Pacquaio and Mayweather, the two biggest cash cows.

all because mayweather is killing boxing

he's turning people away fromt he sport