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  • #71
    Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
    QUillin is getting his money-although the way it is being done is disgusting.

    Roc Nation hasn't bid on the wilder/stivernne fight yet-have they?
    Quillon is getting money? How? Has he fought yet? Didn't he just give up his title and passed up on a $1.4 million payday and you say "He's getting money." BWAHAHA!!! The Big Dumb at it again.

    Roc Nation hasn't bid on the fight, do you know why? Because it's been pushed back 2 times now and now this third time there is no date on when to have that purse bid. You can thank Jay-Z and Beyonce for that though, they have Al Haymon shook.

    Also, no Al Haymon guys really aren't getting paid. Floyd's PPV's have all been subpar on Showtime except for the Canelo fight. We'll say the Oscar fight on HBO cancels that out so since Haymon "took control" Floyd has gotten a higher guarantee but his other Showtime PPV numbers are terrible. Mayweather/Cotto, Mayweather/Hatton, Mayweather/Marquez have all done more than Guerrero and Maidana. You can say the B-side was terrible, that's Al Haymons fault and no one elses, well and Floyd for being a b*tch. The point is his guarantee may be higher but his long term money is nothing. Keep defending the media avoiding hermit, he makes those chumps like Mark Cuban look like college drop outs with his business savy.

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    • #72
      Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
      hold on-Its Haymon's fault fighters are turning down fights with Thurman?
      Well yes. Considering this thread just showed that Haymon has all say in who his fighters face, and the fighters don't have an option. When a Haymon guy doesn't face another Haymon guy... it's because Al doesn't want it to happen. Did I really have to point that out to you? It's in Haymons contract ffs.

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      • #73
        Originally posted by Beater_of_ass View Post
        Quillon is getting money? How? Has he fought yet? Didn't he just give up his title and passed up on a $1.4 million payday and you say "He's getting money." BWAHAHA!!! The Big Dumb at it again.

        Roc Nation hasn't bid on the fight, do you know why? Because it's been pushed back 2 times now and now this third time there is no date on when to have that purse bid. You can thank Jay-Z and Beyonce for that though, they have Al Haymon shook.

        Also, no Al Haymon guys really aren't getting paid. Floyd's PPV's have all been subpar on Showtime except for the Canelo fight. We'll say the Oscar fight on HBO cancels that out so since Haymon "took control" Floyd has gotten a higher guarantee but his other Showtime PPV numbers are terrible. Mayweather/Cotto, Mayweather/Hatton, Mayweather/Marquez have all done more than Guerrero and Maidana. You can say the B-side was terrible, that's Al Haymons fault and no one elses, well and Floyd for being a b*tch. The point is his guarantee may be higher but his long term money is nothing. Keep defending the media avoiding hermit, he makes those chumps like Mark Cuban look like college drop outs with his business savy.
        Haymon paid him $500k and promised him he'd get the same money for his next fight. Rafael has a blog on it.

        Haymon is protecting his interest-yes. But, the point remains its a fact roc nation has not bid on the fight so for you to use the $2 mil is not accurate.

        DO you have any figures to support this-because you've been complaining about the purses danny, berto, LSC and other Haymon fighters have been getting recently.

        If its not the case, why have you been complaining about it so much?

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        • #74
          Originally posted by Beater_of_ass View Post
          Well yes. Considering this thread just showed that Haymon has all say in who his fighters face, and the fighters don't have an option. When a Haymon guy doesn't face another Haymon guy... it's because Al doesn't want it to happen. Did I really have to point that out to you? It's in Haymons contract ffs.
          So fighters are turning Keith down because Haymon tells them to. what about the guys not signed to Haymon or the guys who turned it down before they signed with al?

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          • #75
            smh haymon is the absolute worst of the worst.

            he needs to be locked away.

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            • #76
              Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
              Haymon paid him $500k and promised him he'd get the same money for his next fight. Rafael has a blog on it.

              Haymon is protecting his interest-yes. But, the point remains its a fact roc nation has not bid on the fight so for you to use the $2 mil is not accurate.

              DO you have any figures to support this-because you've been complaining about the purses danny, berto, LSC and other Haymon fighters have been getting recently.

              If its not the case, why have you been complaining about it so much?
              Where did I mention $2 million? Do you even read posts or just type anything? The only figures I've talked about is Quillon passing up a career high payday and it's because Al Haymon told him to. The other figures were Floyd's PPV's being higher on HBO than on Showtime which is when Haymon took over. The PPV numbers are easy to look up so we can easily talk about those figures.

              You can also talk about Berto and DSG, Golovkin just got paid more than Danny in his last fight he got 750k. Also... what is Haymon doing that's so great? $1 million to be on Showtime once a twice a year and that being your ceiling as a fighter? Well... I guess you get to fight Floyd for literally 1/32nd of Floyds purse? Algieri is getting like 4 or 5 million and he has 1 fight on HBO and Maidana only got 1.5 million to face Floyd. What other Al Haymon guys has fought on PPV except when facing or being on Floyd's undercard?

              That's where the money is, who has Haymon elevated that high? He's been on Showtime exclusively for 2 years now, not one of his fighters but Floyd have headlined in that time span, not one. HBO has JMM, Chavez Jr., Cotto, Manny, Bradley, Martinez... all those guys have been on PPV's without Manny in the title. Compare that to Haymon/Showtimes... ZERO a big fat ****ing zero and PPV is where fighters make MONEY not just a million. But Haymon is a boss when it comes to making a fighter money, right?
              Last edited by Beater_of_ass; 10-14-2014, 02:49 PM.

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              • #77
                Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
                So fighters are turning Keith down because Haymon tells them to. what about the guys not signed to Haymon or the guys who turned it down before they signed with al?
                Over your head again, I'm not surprised. If fighters keep turning down Thurman why doesn't Haymon just put his guys in with each other? It'd be like the UFC guys never fighting unless Bellitor guys agreed to fight them, man you're a fool.

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                • #78
                  Originally posted by Beater_of_ass View Post
                  Over your head again, I'm not surprised. If fighters keep turning down Thurman why doesn't Haymon just put his guys in with each other? It'd be like the UFC guys never fighting unless Bellitor guys agreed to fight them, man you're a fool.
                  Several fighters turned Thurman down before they signed with Haymon. That includes Maidana, Guerrero, etc. Now being that some of these guys signed with Haymon as well, it'll be easier to negotiate a fight for Thurman. Not a guarantee, but his chances are much better.

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                  • #79
                    Originally posted by Beater_of_ass View Post
                    Where did I mention $2 million? Do you even read posts or just type anything? The only figures I've talked about is Quillon passing up a career high payday and it's because Al Haymon told him to. The other figures were Floyd's PPV's being higher on HBO than on Showtime which is when Haymon took over. The PPV numbers are easy to look up so we can easily talk about those figures.

                    You can also talk about Berto and DSG, Golovkin just got paid more than Danny in his last fight he got 750k. Also... what is Haymon doing that's so great? $1 million to be on Showtime once a twice a year and that being your ceiling as a fighter? Well... I guess you get to fight Floyd for literally 1/32nd of Floyds purse? Algieri is getting like 4 or 5 million and he has 1 fight on HBO and Maidana only got 1.5 million to face Floyd. What other Al Haymon guys has fought on PPV except when facing or being on Floyd's undercard?

                    That's where the money is, who has Haymon elevated that high? He's been on Showtime exclusively for 2 years now, not one of his fighters but Floyd have headlined in that time span, not one. HBO has JMM, Chavez Jr., Cotto, Manny, Bradley, Martinez... all those guys have been on PPV's without Manny in the title. Compare that to Haymon/Showtimes... ZERO a big fat ****ing zero and PPV is where fighters make MONEY not just a million.
                    I thought it was your post regarding $2 mil-my bad. LSC got 750k, danny got more than that for salka I think.

                    Again-you have been complaining about Haymon fighters getting paid too much. to know say he isn't getting fighters paydays brings into question your past complaints. you can't have it both ways.

                    Originally posted by Beater_of_ass View Post
                    Over your head again, I'm not surprised. If fighters keep turning down Thurman why doesn't Haymon just put his guys in with each other? It'd be like the UFC guys never fighting unless Bellitor guys agreed to fight them, man you're a fool.
                    Thurman is out now injured. This year he hasn't likely because of the GBP lawsuit. Thurman began in 2007. since 2012 Thurman has fought:

                    Julio Díaz
                    Jesús Soto Karass
                    Diego Gabriel Cháves

                    Dejan Zavec
                    Carlos Quintana

                    he headlined the bolded, the chaves fight made him interim champ.

                    Some perspective, if that is possible for you.

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                    • #80
                      Originally posted by radioraheem View Post
                      Several fighters turned Thurman down before they signed with Haymon. That includes Maidana, Guerrero, etc. Now being that some of these guys signed with Haymon as well, it'll be easier to negotiate a fight for Thurman. Not a guarantee, but his chances are much better.
                      Who cares if they turned him down before, they have the same promoter and still can't face each other it's even worse.

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