Comments Thread For: Bob Arum: Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. is Wasting A lot of Time

[bigjavi973]

Everybody is a suspected user in boxing. As far as catchweights, Pac forced 2 on opponents, same as JMM and Cotto for example. Except Pac did it when climbing to his 7th and 8th division. Nobody has gone through more weight classes without a catchweight. Floyd for example cant compete in his 5th without one

Cotto did the catchweight of 1 lb. On top of that its not like martinez has trouble making weight.

[LouIE G]

Cotto did the catchweight of 1 lb. On top of that its not like martinez has trouble making weight.

2 pounds , as the cw was 145..

Edit: your right cotto/martinez was at 159

[bigjavi973]

Which is why he should have taken the long-term deal and made 20+ million. Not bad for a guy with a total of 400k PPV buys to his name.

Why would he even take an extention when he has stated that he wants a fight by fight contract like cotto?

[The Gambler1981]

It is always fun when the truth benefits Arum or at least doesn't hurt him to say so he offers it up.

Time is always a big factor though given the rough nature of boxing, that said JCC Jr. if he was properly using his time in the gym it could really help his career. Sadly I know there is no way that is happening, but one could dream that he is actually making good use of this time away.

[bigjavi973]

2 pounds , as the cw was 145..

Edit: your right cotto/martinez was at 159

Word dude man thinks cotto has a history of draining fighters.

[HeroBando]

Cotto did the catchweight of 1 lb. On top of that its not like martinez has trouble making weight.

Cotto was 146 vs Clottey, had to drop an extra 1lb for Pac. Same thing except only one of them got **** for it, thousands of threads

[Scipio2009]

Top Rank's CEO Bob Arum says former middleweight champion Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. (48-1-1, 32KOs) is "wasting a lot of time" by rejecting potential fight offers and refusing to engage in meaningful fight discussions.

Chavez believes he is a free agent and his contract with Top Rank expired at the end of the September. Arum disagrees with his position, stating that Julio owes his company one more fight and has a year's worth of contract time to fulfill that obligation.
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Chavez, as a standalone offer for the Golovkin fight, was offered a guarantee of $3m, with Golovkin having been offered even less; from the perspective of Team Chavez Jr, the upside on said fight would only kick in above 400k PPV buys.

Pause and think for a moment; $49.99 per PPV on 400k PPv buys (~$10 in fighter revenues), and Chavez Jr gets $3m, Golovkin gets $2m, and Top Rank walks away with $5m, before then giving Chavez Jr and Golovkin small pieces on whatever revenues come in beyond that.

The fight would be openly marketed to the Mexican and Mexican American communities, with Top Rank doing everything in their power to work off of the Chavez name, yet Top Rank walks away with over 50% of the proceeds on the fight. And this is even without factoring in the kind of money that would come from the site fee for a Chavez Jr fight.

In what world is that even remotely a fair offer?

[jose.sooto]

I can't believe i am saying this but i actually agree with this statement from Bob Arum. Julio Cesar Chavez Jr is wasting time. All he does now is post on twitter and instagram.

[HeroBando]

Chavez, as a standalone offer for the Golovkin fight, was offered a guarantee of $3m, with Golovkin having been offered even less; from the perspective of Team Chavez Jr, the upside on said fight would only kick in above 400k PPV buys.

Pause and think for a moment; $49.99 per PPV on 400k PPv buys (~$10 in fighter revenues), and Chavez Jr gets $3m, Golovkin gets $2m, and Top Rank walks away with $5m, before then giving Chavez Jr and Golovkin small pieces on whatever revenues come in beyond that.

The fight would be openly marketed to the Mexican and Mexican American communities, with Top Rank doing everything in their power to work off of the Chavez name, yet Top Rank walks away with over 50% of the proceeds on the fight. And this is even without factoring in the kind of money that would come from the site fee for a Chavez Jr fight.

In what world is that even remotely a fair offer?

The one fight extension offer was more than fair though, generous in fact

[Unseen]

Chavez Jr. could make $7 million against Golovkin followed by $10-$15 million against Carl Froch in England without Bob Arum. He could also take a Mayweather fight at 158 and make $10 to $15 million. Offering someone $12 million when they could make $30 million without you is not a generous offer.

I am from the UK. There is a reason Carl wants it in Vegas. Jnr is not even known here, in fact neither is his dad.

Mayweather got how much for Canelo?

158? LOL.