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Originally posted by bigjavi973 View PostIf youve been following boxing long you would know it was floydie who stated that.
Gatti-Mayweather is the immediate plan. But Top Rank is taking a close look at this, and seeing this backup solution: Mayweather-Cotto in a pay-per-view clash this summer, instead of Gatti-Mayweather. Then, if Cotto wins, make a pay-per-view mega fight against De La Hoya in late 2005.
***8220;Cotto needs a couple more tune-ups. Right now he***8217;s a little too green,***8221; Mayweather said.
http://www.thesweetscience.com/artic...585-mayweather
Its disproved son.Last edited by ScantsRants; 10-13-2014, 03:53 PM.
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Originally posted by Bronx2245 View PostNo Manny is saying "TBE is scared of me," "TBE is picking fighters that he knows he can beat." It's hypocrisy. Floyd gave us Cotto, Canelo, and Maidana. Rios, Bradley and Algeri isn't quite the same, to say the least. To put it in other terms, if Khan and Thurman fought this year, the winner is more deserving of a shot at Floyd, than Manny Pacquiao.
Manny is more deserving of a Floyd fight than anyone on the planet and it's ridiculous it hasn't happened by now. They're both at fault, but Money needs to make it happen.
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Floyd Sr tryna get those unemployment benefits.
And is he drunk? Floyd is going to be flat-footed, with no movement against Manny? He would be put through the Margarito buzzsaw
Floyd's only hope in that fight that will never happen would be to run for the hills, land a few counters here and there and survive for a decision. Trying to walk Manny down will just bring to fruition Sr's biggest fear- his son will die in the ring.
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Originally posted by bigjavi973 View PostSame here. Ima cotto fan, hes a warrior, one of the last of the dying breed in boxing. Ive been watching boxing since I was little with my grandfather. His favorite fighter was holyfield. Im 29 btw, not afraid to say my age.
Did Cotto duck Mayweather?
March 9th, 2010
By Alexander Fugate:
People first became interested in a Maywether-Cotto match-up around 2005 when both fought at 140 pounds. However, most thought Cotto still needed some more experience before stepping up to someone as good as Mayweather. This was pointed out by Chris Ackerman of Doghouseboxing.com on October 16, 2005 when he reported, “…no one in the Cotto camp is foolish enough to look for it (a fight with Mayweather) anytime soon. They know, as do most analysts, that Cotto has a lot of things to work on before he is ready for the likes of Floyd Mayweather.”
At the time Kosta Tszyu, Ricky Hatton, Floyd Mayeather, and Arturo Gatti were all in the 140 pound division; Hatton retired Tszyu and Mayweather dismantled Gatti. Cotto never fought any of these fighters who sat atop the division he fought in.
A Mayweather-Cotto bout seemed inevitable in 2007 or 2008. At the end of 2006 Mayweather had unified the WBC, IBF, IBO, IBA, and Ring magazine championships and was the lineal champ. Despite all these titles, no offer came from Cotto.
Then after Mayweather defeated Oscar De La Hoya and Ricky Hatton in 2007, he was considered the number one pound for pound fighter by every credible source and one of the biggest draws in boxing history. For Cotto a fight with Mayweather would have wielded him his biggest payday and with a win, recognition as one of the best pound for pound fighters in the world, if not the best. However, Cotto never made any offer to Mayweather and instead, in January 2008, agreed to fight Alfonzo Gomez. Gomez was a journeyman who had appeared on The Contender television show, with amazingly few known opponents. This bout was scheduled on the undercard of Margarito-Cintron II. This was done to built up hype for a Cotto-Margarito showdown. Michael Swann of CBSsports.com reported, “No one expected Gomez to beat Cotto or even provide much of a challenge.” Mr. Swann went on, “Cotto needed a tune-up bout… in preparation for his July 26 meeting with the Kermit Cintron-Antonio Margarito winner.” So a month after Mayweather knocked out Ricky Hatton, Cotto had his next two bouts already planned, with neither of the opponents being named Floyd Mayweather Jr. This is an interesting move if Cotto really had any desire to face Mayweather. If Cotto was so intent on facing Mayweather why did he schedule his next two fights without attempting to get Mayweather in the ring with him first?
And as we all know, Margarito gave Cotto a gruesome beating; a beating many suspect Margarito accomplished through wrapping his hands with a plaster-like substance. Regardless of if Margarito cheated against Cotto or not, after that fight Cotto was in no condition to fight Mayweather. After beating Michael Jennings, Cotto won a controversial decision over Joshua Clottey that left most analysts with the believe that Cotto was damaged goods at best and shot at worst.
After Clottey, Cotto was quick to sign to fight Manny Pacquiao. This fight made him plenty of money, but Cotto was forced to weigh-in at 145 pounds, lighter than his normal weight. Cotto agreed to this catch-weight despite his well known history of severely struggling earlier in his career to make 140 pounds. Also, Cotto was only offered a 35% cut of the purse. Despite the big payday, Cotto suffered another beating and severely damaged his marketability.
Throughout his entire career, Miguel Cotto never made one offer to fight Floyd Mayweather Jr. At 140 pounds, no one realistically thought Cotto was experienced enough for Mayweather and Cotto never fought any of the top four fighters at that weight. When Mayweather won numerous belts at 147, no offer was forthcoming from the Cotto camp. When Mayweather received a $15 million guarantee against Hatton, where was the $10-$20 million offer from Cotto? No where, instead he scheduled Gomez, and the winner of Margarito-Cintron II. If one actually looks at the facts, there is no argument to be made that Mayweather ever ducked Cotto. However, there can be a strong argument made that Cotto ducked Mayweather despite Floyd possessing numerous titles and a potential record payday for Cotto.
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Originally posted by bigjavi973 View PostBecause its an ongoing cycle. The best wins to get to broner are berto and broner? Maidana would have NEVER gotten that shot at floydie if he fought thurman. Guerrero is ducking thurman as well.
hhmmm when is floydie gonna defend his 154 lbs belt against a REAL 154 lbs fighter?
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Originally posted by Bronx2245 View PostNo Manny is saying "TBE is scared of me," "TBE is picking fighters that he knows he can beat." It's hypocrisy. Floyd gave us Cotto, Canelo, and Maidana. Rios, Bradley and Algeri isn't quite the same, to say the least. To put it in other terms, if Khan and Thurman fought this year, the winner is more deserving of a shot at Floyd, than Manny Pacquiao.
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