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  • Originally posted by megadeth View Post
    It was too late because Floyd had said previously that that offer was off the table.
    A familiar pattern of obstructionism. We get it, Floyd doesnt want the fight

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    • Originally posted by HeGotPacProblem View Post
      Pac never started at 0 days back then. He was weary of blood tests as he felt it weakened him from experience in fights.

      Freddie Roach reveals rumor about a request for Olympic-style drug testing, but says they will agree.

      In a video titled "Boxing Legend Freddie Roach Updates Us On Pacquiao" uploaded to YouTube on DECEMBER 11, 2009, Freddie Roach reveals the first hint about Mayweather's request for Olympic-style drug testing, telling roving reporter Elie Seckbach, "I hear negotiations are a little shady. Schaefer and them are unhappy about something. They want Olympic-style drug testing. I said, 'Yeah, no problem.' I said, 'Whatever you want.' Since we excepted that, now they're running scared again."

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGd8r7G7Mxo

      Michael Koncz says request for Olympic-style testing is a laughing matter and suggests they have no problem with it.

      Speaking to Lem Satterfield of AOL Fanhouse, Pacquiao's adviser, Michael Koncz, suggests that Mayweather's request for Olympic-style drug testing is a laughing matter and they have no concerns whatsoever about it. "Our reaction is, 'So what?' We know Manny doesn't take any illegal drugs or anything. And none of this is getting under Manny's skin or anything. I'm here with Manny, and to him, it's like a joke. It's a laughing matter," said Koncz. "It's something foolish anyway. Why would we be concerned? We know he doesn't do any of that ****."

      http://www.aolnews.com/2009/12/13/pacquiao-would...


      Funny his trainer and advisor knew nothing about it though. How do I know you will have an excuse for this too??

      Originally posted by HeGotPacProblem View Post
      Paying a penalty and imposing drug testing cutoff is comparing apples and oranges. One has absolutely no bearing on a fight whereas the other does.
      What are yout talking about? Pac was IMPOSING A PENALTY is just the same as Floyd imposing extra testing. You are really showing how bias you are on this. They both had demands that were normally goverend by the commision and they went above and beyond what the commision requires.

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      • Originally posted by HeroBando View Post
        A familiar pattern of obstructionism. We get it, Floyd doesnt want the fight
        No, he does not want the fight ANYMORE. If you have 2 failed negotiations with a fighter (when the whole world wants to fight you) and the fighter and his promoter says NO, and sues you (how many fighters have sued other fighters?) for defamation, and then the promoter goes to the public and asks for a boycott on your fight with Maidana, because it's non-competitive (which is crazy now that Manny is fighting Algeri), why would you want to fight them? All Floyd has to do is SHUT THE **** UP, keep fighting champions, and watch the movie. Sooner or later, the media will start asking Manny, "We know you can't get the Mayweather fight, but you knew that when you re-signed with Arum, so what's next? Is this the level of opponents we can expect from now on?" Manny will answer like he always does..."I leave that to my promoter."

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        • Originally posted by HeroBando View Post
          A familiar pattern of obstructionism. We get it, Floyd doesnt want the fight
          How is it obstructionism when he is just going back to his orginal demand, but it's NOT obstructionism when Pac didn't accept that demand in the first place?

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          • Originally posted by megadeth View Post
            How is it obstructionism when he is just going back to his orginal demand, but it's NOT obstructionism when Pac didn't accept that demand in the first place?
            When the goal posts keep narrowing thats obstructionism.

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            • Originally posted by HeroBando View Post
              When the goal posts keep narrowing thats obstructionism.
              So what were all the excuses from Pac? Widening the goalpost?

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              • Originally posted by megadeth View Post
                How is it obstructionism when he is just going back to his orginal demand, but it's NOT obstructionism when Pac didn't accept that demand in the first place?
                floyd has agreed to 14 days cut-off when manny wanted 6 weeks cut-off. when manny move to 3 weeks cut-off floyd still wanted 14 days cut-off. thats when the talk breaks down. i think a week later manny agreed to that 14 days but floyd said that offer is off the table. the talk breaks down between manny's 3 week and floyds 2 weeks.
                0 weeks is what floyd wanted BEFORE the negotiation. but during negotiation hes consistent stance is 14 days. so let us concentrate on that 14 days and not confuse ourselves with 0 days.
                floyd is not a good negotiator, when manny move closer to a goal of 14 days- floyd just got exasperated and remove that offer off negotiation- thus the breakdown of negotiation.

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                • Originally posted by Bronx2245 View Post
                  No, he does not want the fight ANYMORE. If you have 2 failed negotiations with a fighter (when the whole world wants to fight you) and the fighter and his promoter says NO, and sues you (how many fighters have sued other fighters?) for defamation, and then the promoter goes to the public and asks for a boycott on your fight with Maidana, because it's non-competitive (which is crazy now that Manny is fighting Algeri), why would you want to fight them? All Floyd has to do is SHUT THE **** UP, keep fighting champions, and watch the movie. Sooner or later, the media will start asking Manny, "We know you can't get the Mayweather fight, but you knew that when you re-signed with Arum, so what's next? Is this the level of opponents we can expect from now on?" Manny will answer like he always does..."I leave that to my promoter."
                  but in present reality floyd is the one being ask why the fight aint happening. it is a general perception TODAY that will be the general perception when they are both retired. floyd really believes that pac is on something but the situation is pac was then p4p number 1 and when you spread a story that the no.1 fighter is cheating- you either prove it or pay for defamation. arum is not a problem on the first negotiation and will not be a problem when they decided to fight. just like the blood test cut off date- its not a problem in 2011 and wouldn't be a problem in the time they decided to fight. floyd got the calzaghe mentality- keep that zero and take those risky fight before retirement

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                  • It is shocking that there are at least 2 people still supporting Floyd here. Is he still paying ya'll to defend him?

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                    • At least Rog had the guts to face the most dangerous welterweight of his era twice even if he had no chance of winning. Junior has said that if he could fight anyone in the history of boxing it would be Chavez but he only said that knowing that such a hypothetical proposition has no chance of actually happening. Floyd will not face Pacquiao and so I can't see how anyone could believe he would actually face Julio Caesar Chavez in his prime.
                      As for Senior's comments, I'm really not surprised. It's the same old narcissistic, delusional rambling from Old Man Money.

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