Comments Thread For: Mayweather Sr: Floyd Would Beat Pacquiao The Hell Up!

[bigjavi973]

No you did not, it's not like I'm related to Floyd. The guy doesn't pay my bills. I just realize that when I see a person post and use terms like "Floydie", "Pac Roid" or any other disparaging names to describe these great boxers... I have to sift through the thread to differentiate the real objective boxing fans, from the ******, to converse with.

You haven't been here long enough have you? I can say randomly, "these flowmos are dumb", and they go and respond to it anyway even though it wasn't even a reply to any of them. I give props though to bronx2245, he's pretty much the only consistant mayweather fan here. Oh and larryxxx as well.

[SplitSecond]

When Cotto beats Margarito, he's shot, but when Manny beats him (for a belt?) Margarito was a beast. When Mayweather beats Oscar at 154, ODLH was old, but when Manny beats ODLH much later, and at 147, Manny's a beast. When Floyd beats Shane, who was coming of a KO vs. Margarito, Shane is old, but when Manny beats Shane coming off a draw with Mora, Manny's a beast! Maidana is way better than Algeri, and it didn't have to be Algeri. There are other welterweights out there besides Mayweather! If Manny can fight Mayweather, he could fight anyone on the GBP/Haymon stable, but he didn't. If you criticize Floyd's opponents, then Manny is the worse!

you do realise that pacquiao beat margarito first? and broke him basically, you realise this correct?

no one claims pacquiao's wins over oscar and mosley are better than floyds, mosley was shot and oscar was drained, but yes, it's also true that both were old vs floyd

you also have to understand the circumstances when pacquiao moved up to fight de la hoya
and it had to be either provodnikov algieri, unless you wanted another bradley rematch? well, even that couldn't happen because of bradley's injuries, so yea, no fights

only now, after algieri may we see pacquiao fight someone new and from gbp

[bigjavi973]

Dude, I've been following the sport of boxing when you probably ****ting a diaper and eating baby food. So unless you have a credible source to disprove what I am say, don't holla at me son.

If youve been following boxing long you would know it was floydie who stated that.

Gatti-Mayweather is the immediate plan. But Top Rank is taking a close look at this, and seeing this backup solution: Mayweather-Cotto in a pay-per-view clash this summer, instead of Gatti-Mayweather. Then, if Cotto wins, make a pay-per-view mega fight against De La Hoya in late 2005.

“Cotto needs a couple more tune-ups. Right now he’s a little too green,” Mayweather said.

http://www.thesweetscience.com/artic...585-mayweather

Its disproved son.

[Bronx2245]

I thought the boxing pedestal was higher for floyd than manny, according to boxing fans. Isn't this the saying they all use, "all roads lead to mayweather"? So shouldn't your wins at the division need to be more cemented for floyd than manny? I mean, of course, according to the notion that all roads lead to mayweather?

But there's the hypocrisy again. If Maidana needed more wins in the division, doesn't Algeri need at least one? If Maidana's wins aren't enough cement, Algeri needs all the cement from Ground Zero, donated to him immediately! Manny fans are saying Manny is on the same level or better than Floyd, that's why they feel the fight should have been 50/50 or 55/45. Therefore the standards should be the same too! Arum and Oscar have been negotiating Pacquiao vs. Danny Garcia for months now. No Manny fans are bit*hing! Watch how things change if Floyd fights Danny Garcia next..."Cherry-Pick."

[ScantsRants]

You haven't been here long enough have you? I can say randomly, "these flowmos are dumb", and they go and respond to it anyway even though it wasn't even a reply to any of them. I give props though to bronx2245, he's pretty much the only consistant mayweather fan here. Oh and larryxxx as well.

Actually, I've been reading this site for years, just recently started commenting on the thread. Btw, I'm not a Mayweather or Pacquiao fan. I'm a fan of the sport (boxing).

[Real Hero]

Floyd SR: Bark bark bark...
Floyd JR : Meow meow meow...

[bigjavi973]

But there's the hypocrisy again. If Maidana needed more wins in the division, doesn't Algeri need at least one? If Maidana's wins aren't enough cement, Algeri needs all the cement from Ground Zero, donated to him immediately! Manny fans are saying Manny is on the same level or better than Floyd, that's why they feel the fight should have been 50/50 or 55/45. Therefore the standards should be the same too! Arum and Oscar have been negotiating Pacquiao vs. Danny Garcia for months now. No Manny fans are bit*hing! Watch how things change if Floyd fights Danny Garcia next..."Cherry-Pick."

Manny is not the one going around saying, TBE TBE TBE!!! and IMO, anyone who says that garcia is a cherry pick, should just go and shoot themselves in the foot.

[bigjavi973]

Actually, I've been reading this site for years, just recently started commenting on the thread. Btw, I'm not a Mayweather or Pacquiao fan. I'm a fan of the sport (boxing).

Same here. Ima cotto fan, hes a warrior, one of the last of the dying breed in boxing. Ive been watching boxing since I was little with my grandfather. His favorite fighter was holyfield. Im 29 btw, not afraid to say my age.

[Bronx2245]

you do realise that pacquiao beat margarito first? and broke him basically, you realise this correct?

no one claims pacquiao's wins over oscar and mosley are better than floyds, mosley was shot and oscar was drained, but yes, it's also true that both were old vs floyd

you also have to understand the circumstances when pacquiao moved up to fight de la hoya
and it had to be either provodnikov algieri, unless you wanted another bradley rematch? well, even that couldn't happen because of bradley's injuries, so yea, no fights

only now, after algieri may we see pacquiao fight someone new and from gbp

So beating the person first is more important? Thanks for saying that! Why only now can we see Manny fight a GBP fighter before Algeri was chosen?

Roach said Marquez asked for $20 million to fight Pacman again. And what does Freddie think is a reasonable ask? "Ten million," replied the six time Boxing Writers Association Trainer of the Year.

Think he could get $15 million, I asked? "In the middle there somewhere, yes," the trainer said. "The door isn't closed, I talked to Bob, the door isn't closed."

Anyway, if Marquez' ask is too rich, maybe we see a Pacquiao-Provodnikov fight, provided Ruslan gets past the New Yorker on Saturday. Roach is open to it. He said he'd work Manny's corner, and no, his helper Marvin Somodio wouldn't jump ship to Team Ruslan for that one…not if he ever wanted to set foot in his native Phillippines again. Yes, Ruslan would have to secure a new training crew if he signed on to meet Manny.

Me, I like the thought of a Manny-Ruslan style clash. What does Freddie think of that style mix? "I've seen them spar a lot. I think I know what might happen. Ruslan is a very dangerous, dangerous guy. He has one punch knockout power. And Pacquiao has been knocked out before. It's not an easy fight."

Roach said Arum asked him what he thought of a Pacman-Amir Khan fight, and, "I said no, how about Danny Garcia?" Roach stated. "If you're going to cross over, cross over and get me someone exciting. Someone who's going to make a good fight, that's what Manny wants."

Isn't Khan sort of exciting? "He throws combinations and holds now, it's so boring," Roach answered. "It's smart but not fun to watch. I don't want to stink the place out. And Ruslan wouldn't do that, and Danny Garcia wouldn't do that, Garcia would fight back. If they can cross over and get Khan, why not cross over and get Garcia."

http://www.thesweetscience.com/news/...iao-scrap-more

[bigjavi973]

So beating the person first is more important? Thanks for saying that! Why only now can we see Manny fight a GBP fighter before Algeri was chosen?

Roach said Marquez asked for $20 million to fight Pacman again. And what does Freddie think is a reasonable ask? "Ten million," replied the six time Boxing Writers Association Trainer of the Year.

Think he could get $15 million, I asked? "In the middle there somewhere, yes," the trainer said. "The door isn't closed, I talked to Bob, the door isn't closed."

Anyway, if Marquez' ask is too rich, maybe we see a Pacquiao-Provodnikov fight, provided Ruslan gets past the New Yorker on Saturday. Roach is open to it. He said he'd work Manny's corner, and no, his helper Marvin Somodio wouldn't jump ship to Team Ruslan for that one…not if he ever wanted to set foot in his native Phillippines again. Yes, Ruslan would have to secure a new training crew if he signed on to meet Manny.

Me, I like the thought of a Manny-Ruslan style clash. What does Freddie think of that style mix? "I've seen them spar a lot. I think I know what might happen. Ruslan is a very dangerous, dangerous guy. He has one punch knockout power. And Pacquiao has been knocked out before. It's not an easy fight."

Roach said Arum asked him what he thought of a Pacman-Amir Khan fight, and, "I said no, how about Danny Garcia?" Roach stated. "If you're going to cross over, cross over and get me someone exciting. Someone who's going to make a good fight, that's what Manny wants."

Isn't Khan sort of exciting? "He throws combinations and holds now, it's so boring," Roach answered. "It's smart but not fun to watch. I don't want to stink the place out. And Ruslan wouldn't do that, and Danny Garcia wouldn't do that, Garcia would fight back. If they can cross over and get Khan, why not cross over and get Garcia."

http://www.thesweetscience.com/news/...iao-scrap-more

I kinda see it the way teddy atlas described canelo's win over lara:

"Theres no money in a cotto-lara fight, but there is in a cotto-canelo fight. I used to say in boxing follow the punches to see whos the winner, but nowadays, its follow the money."

Im sure bobbie didnt want to see pac vs provo. If a fighters eye is completely closed, especially caused by a punch, I thought that shouldve been a win for provo by tko. Just sayin imo.