Comments Thread For: Golovkin's Promoter Discusses Potential Mayweather Bout

[The Big Dunn]

And do you think he just randomly began to speak of his dream fight or was he asked what his dream fight is? Two different situations. I've seen plenty of interviews where they talk about Mayweather and when they don't. Difference is: the ones where they talked about him were ones where he was brought up specifically. You think they're just going to not answer the question? Of course they are, whether they believe a fight can realistically happen or not.

I think its part of their marketing plan so the team encourages anyone who interviews GGG to make sure they ask about it. I don't think its a coincidence.

[AKAcronym]

I think its part of their marketing plan so the team encourages anyone who interviews GGG to make sure they ask about it. I don't think its a coincidence.

Well now you're just speculating. You really think before they interview they tell the guy "hey, can you make sure to throw a Floyd question in there? Thanks." It's not a coincidence the biggest name in boxing is always thrown around in almost every damn interview, regardless of who they're interviewing.

[techliam]

Considering that he beat the lineal 154 champ, I can't agree with you, but he should have been stripped due to his inactivity by now no question. On the flip side, this thread is concerning Mayweather fighting a middleweight, so calling him a paper 154 lbs champ is irrelevant to the conversation, unless you're trying to discredit GGG's win before it happens

Well, almost. Floyd didn't beat the lineal 154 Champion, he won the vacant championship against Canelo

[HeroBando]

Considering that he beat the lineal 154 champ, I can't agree with you, but he should have been stripped due to his inactivity by now no question. On the flip side, this thread is concerning Mayweather fighting a middleweight, so calling him a paper 154 lbs champ is irrelevant to the conversation, unless you're trying to discredit GGG's win before it happens

I dont think Canelo was lineal. Floyd unified at a catchweight, then defended the 154 belt at 147. Thats worse than a paper champ. Ggg offered to drop down to 154. Thats not unfair to any decent champ a division below, much less lineal. But this one is bogus, everyone can see it

[radioraheem]

Wow I didn't know Manny weighed that high on fight night before.

I know he was at 152 ish when he went into camp for Margarito (could be wrong on opponent) but I didn't know he'd actually come to the ring at 151.

Which fight was that the 4th or 3rd?

It was for the 4th fight. For the third fight, he was 148 lbs. But for the fourth, Pacquaio was 151 lbs.

[doom_specialist]

I dont think Canelo was lineal. Floyd unified at a catchweight, then defended the 154 belt at 147. Thats worse than a paper champ. Ggg offered to drop down to 154. Thats not unfair to any decent champ a division below, much less lineal. But this one is bogus, everyone can see it

I was gonna draw parallels to a certain someone else winning a vacant JMW championship at an even lower catchweight, against a much lesser fighter coming off of a suspension, but it'd just start up an entirely different discussion that's already been done to death.

Staying on topic though, Canelo won the vacant WBC title against Matthew Hatton, then won the WBA and Ring belts from Austin Trout, and Mayweather took the WBC and Ring belts from Canelo. Winning the ring belt generally signifies the start of a lineage, so I'd say that Canelo was lineal in that regard. However, since Canelo is Oscar's new golden goose, the validity of his ring belt could very well be up for debate. Either way, Canelo was considered "The man" at 154, at the time of him fighting Mayweather, and Floyd won fairly decisively. Hard to argue that he's not lineal if he took out the guy considered #1 at the weight.

It's my belief that Mayweather has to fight GGG at 160 (or a catchweight of 157-159) or the fight is bogus, because there are too many excuses to be made if the fight is contested at 154. Andre Ward doesn't get credit for beating Dawson despite the weight drop being Dawson's choice. That being said, Mayweather detractors would nitpick a GGG loss to death if he lost at 154. He should not even waste his time unless he's going to jump another weight class, which he will not.

[Weebler I]

I was gonna draw parallels to a certain someone else winning a vacant JMW championship at an even lower catchweight, against a much lesser fighter coming off of a suspension, but it'd just start up an entirely different discussion that's already been done to death.

Staying on topic though, Canelo won the vacant WBC title against Matthew Hatton, then won the WBA and Ring belts from Austin Trout, and Mayweather took the WBC and Ring belts from Canelo. Winning the ring belt generally signifies the start of a lineage, so I'd say that Canelo was lineal in that regard. However, since Canelo is Oscar's new golden goose, the validity of his ring belt could very well be up for debate. Either way, Canelo was considered "The man" at 154, at the time of him fighting Mayweather, and Floyd won fairly decisively. Hard to argue that he's not lineal if he took out the guy considered #1 at the weight.

It's my belief that Mayweather has to fight GGG at 160 (or a catchweight of 157-159) or the fight is bogus, because there are too many excuses to be made if the fight is contested at 154. Andre Ward doesn't get credit for beating Dawson despite the weight drop being Dawson's choice. That being said, Mayweather detractors would nitpick a GGG loss to death if he lost at 154. He should not even waste his time unless he's going to jump another weight class, which he will not.

Mayweather fans claim people detract from what he does anyway, so what's the difference? All you're doing is justifying him avoiding another potential opponent.

[Larry the boss]

Mayweather fans claim people detract from what he does anyway, so what's the difference? All you're doing is justifying him avoiding another potential opponent.

No excuse needs to be made, this fight is not even realistic and no one is even calling for it

[HeroBando]

I was gonna draw parallels to a certain someone else winning a vacant JMW championship at an even lower catchweight, against a much lesser fighter coming off of a suspension, but it'd just start up an entirely different discussion that's already been done to death.

Staying on topic though, Canelo won the vacant WBC title against Matthew Hatton, then won the WBA and Ring belts from Austin Trout, and Mayweather took the WBC and Ring belts from Canelo. Winning the ring belt generally signifies the start of a lineage, so I'd say that Canelo was lineal in that regard. However, since Canelo is Oscar's new golden goose, the validity of his ring belt could very well be up for debate. Either way, Canelo was considered "The man" at 154, at the time of him fighting Mayweather, and Floyd won fairly decisively. Hard to argue that he's not lineal if he took out the guy considered #1 at the weight.

It's my belief that Mayweather has to fight GGG at 160 (or a catchweight of 157-159) or the fight is bogus, because there are too many excuses to be made if the fight is contested at 154. Andre Ward doesn't get credit for beating Dawson despite the weight drop being Dawson's choice. That being said, Mayweather detractors would nitpick a GGG loss to death if he lost at 154. He should not even waste his time unless he's going to jump another weight class, which he will not.

Its good you didnt draw that parallel, since its dumb as a rock. Did that guy sit on the belt for 2.5 years without a single defense at the regulation weight? Did he win the lineal belt at a CW?

Canelo wasnt considered The Man by anyone, look at his resume then. A disputed win over Trout and what else? 2nd best win shot undersized Mosley, or Ryan Rhodes?

But its not just this that makes Floyd a joke of a lineal SWW champ, its that his fanboys keep disowning the belt when discussing tough fights at SWW, saying this paper champ is too small and old to take on all comers at the weight

[Nay_Sayer]

Talking to your own alt, pathetic

Talk to deez nuts...