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I just rewatched Mayweather vs Marquez - WOW Floyd was spectactular!

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  • Originally posted by HeGotPacProblem View Post
    You make an emphasis on whether or not opponents are prime and non-prime and now you debate with a statement like WC...so you are contradicting yourself since you want to use both sides of the argument at your choosing.

    Why you so caught up on weight now? Did Floyd win in 8 weight classes?
    Im still caught up on weight , Foreman was 154 WC , Roach wanted a CW and Uri said no CW and Roach said your too big , Margo coming of a KO loss then baned for 2 years had a fight in mexico at 154 and looked like garbage , the Commission will not give Margo a licence to box , in comes Arum gets him a licence in Texas , then a CW at 150 in a 26 ft ring with 8oz gloves , for a 154 title GTFOH that 154 title is a paper title , and Margarito is the same size as Foreman lol .

    When Cotto held the 154 title , Manny calls him out for a rematch , Cotto says no problems but no CW , Manny takes off proving it was the weight he beat not the man , Floyd fights that Cotto gives him 15 lbs and beats him .

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    • Originally posted by Bacterian View Post
      When did Manny come in over the contracted weight? Honestly I don't recall that at all...don't make things up man.
      I don't need to make stuff up. How about doing a search b4 accusing.

      Rustico Torrecampo
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      • Originally posted by Reloaded View Post
        Im still caught up on weight , Foreman was 154 WC , Roach wanted a CW and Uri said no CW and Roach said your too big , Margo coming of a KO loss then baned for 2 years had a fight in mexico at 154 and looked like garbage , the Commission will not give Margo a licence to box , in comes Arum gets him a licence in Texas , then a CW at 150 in a 26 ft ring with 8oz gloves , for a 154 title GTFOH that 154 title is a paper title , and Margarito is the same size as Foreman lol .

        When Cotto held the 154 title , Manny calls him out for a rematch , Cotto says no problems but no CW , Manny takes off proving it was the weight he beat not the man , Floyd fights that Cotto gives him 15 lbs and beats him .
        Too many facts there! It's astounding that people look at Floyd and call him a cherry picker, while BLATANT stuff like this goes on with Pac and it's completely ignored.

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        • Originally posted by megadeth View Post
          I don't need to make stuff up. How about doing a search b4 accusing.

          Rustico Torrecampo
          Medgoen Singsurat
          True. But that's a little different. That was a guy who was still in the natural process of human growth and still on his way up through the weight classes and immediately moved up in weight after Thailand.

          If, Pacquiao didn't make weight for Bradley or Marquez, or if he doesn't make weight for Algieri, then you could make a good point.
          Last edited by ReIoaded; 10-04-2014, 01:40 AM.

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          • Originally posted by megadeth View Post
            Too many facts there! It's astounding that people look at Floyd and call him a cherry picker, while BLATANT stuff like this goes on with Pac and it's completely ignored.
            The guy beating his chest claiming to be the best ever will obviously be criticized more.

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            • Marquez was a feather weight that wore the added weight around his waist. Not the same fighter he is now. Now he has bulked up. If I remember right Mayweather tricked Marquez by signing to meet a certain weight and then didn't make it. I do give Mayweather credit for making it so he will have every advantage in a fight.

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              • Originally posted by ChequeHook View Post
                True. But that's a little different. That was a guy who was still in the natural process of human growth and still on his way up through the weight classes.
                If, Pacquiao didn't make weight for Bradley or Marquez, or if he doesn't make weight for Algieri, then you could make a good point.
                Ok and Floyd was coming off a 2yr layoff and had a broken rib. Pac is always given an excuse or the benefit of doubt, but for Floyd he is a cheat and whatever is inexcusable.

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                • Originally posted by HeGotPacProblem View Post
                  The guy beating his chest claiming to be the best ever will obviously be criticized more.
                  Come on now. He was criticized more LOOONG before he was claiming to be "TBE"! This is no excuse for double standards.

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                  • Originally posted by megadeth View Post
                    Ok and Floyd was coming off a 2yr layoff and had a broken rib. Pac is always given an excuse or the benefit of doubt, but for Floyd he is a cheat and whatever is inexcusable.
                    I don't buy the broken rib story. Fight was scheduled for July 18, 2009 and the public showed limited interest in the fight. So, they bs'd about a rib injury and moved the fight to Mexican Independence Day in September, Floyd started giving interviews where he explicitly encouraged Mexicans to "buy the PPV and support your hero, Juan Manuel Marquez".

                    And from the day forward, Mayweather began to monopolize the May and September PPV dates. Gotta love and respect the marketing geniuses who run the Money show.

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                    • Originally posted by Growth View Post
                      Marquez was a feather weight that wore the added weight around his waist. Not the same fighter he is now. Now he has bulked up. If I remember right Mayweather tricked Marquez by signing to meet a certain weight and then didn't make it. I do give Mayweather credit for making it so he will have every advantage in a fight.
                      Maybe you believe this would make a difference, but Marquez doesn't. There were people talking about Marquez/Floyd II after he KO'd Pac. Marquez was asked about it and his response? "We've already seen that!" That tells how much he wanted a rematch and what he thought hiss chances were.

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