I just rewatched Mayweather vs Marquez - WOW Floyd was spectactular!

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What's his best victory then?

Not sure. Floyd has a lot of very good fighters on his resume, just not great fighters(at least not in their prime). I would say Castillo II, Corales or Hernandez.

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2 names missing from Floyd...Erik Morales & Marco Antonio Barrera

He also did not beat out Castillo in the 1st fight.

Says you , he gave him an instant rematch and won clearly , Manny did the same when a lot said JMM won and was robbed and Manny got knocked out , you dont see the difference .

Corrales and Hernandez are on a par with Morelles and Barrera especially considering Manny out weighed them both while Floyd was out weighted by 10lbs and more .

Floyd at 135 would have tortured Morales and Barrera that was Floyds best weight .

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Says you , he gave him an instant rematch and won clearly , Manny did the same when a lot said JMM won and was robbed and Manny got knocked out , you dont see the difference .

Corrales and Hernandez are on a par with Morelles and Barrera especially considering Manny out weighed them both while Floyd was out weighted by 10lbs and more .

Floyd at 135 would have tortured Morales and Barrera that was Floyds best weight .

Says a lot of people, including the compubox, unbiased boxing fans, announcers of the fight. Take off your Floyd shades already. Castillo won the 1st fight. Mayweather wouldn't be where he is now had he lost so early in his career.

If everyone fought like Mayweather, there would be almost no KO victories.

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LOL ,you're contradicting yourself again. You make an emphasis on the opponents and what stage of the career they're fighting in and now you say Floyd has beaten "more WCs." Which is it? If his resume is so great, how come you can't answer the question?

Floyd has beaten more WCs than any other fighter , whats contraindicative its a fact .

Like I said go fight for fight with Manny and weigh up the differences mentioned and Floyd trumps him , and Im not dogging Mannys resume as a whole only his WW run which is fake made to order , he dont even fight WW now because the top WW will give him hell so he fights JWWs , all his WW fights is full of special conditions or shot fighters hand picked at a certain point in time while they were openly ducked previously when winning , citing Cotto Mosley .

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Says you , he gave him an instant rematch and won clearly , Manny did the same when a lot said JMM won and was robbed and Manny got knocked out , you dont see the difference .

Corrales and Hernandez are on a par with Morelles and Barrera especially considering Manny out weighed them both while Floyd was out weighted by 10lbs and more .

Floyd at 135 would have tortured Morales and Barrera that was Floyds best weight .

Morales and Barrera were completely different animals. Floyd was prime back then but he was also a lot greener; saying Floyd would have definitely beat them is really REALLY reaching.

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Floyd has beaten more WCs than any other fighter , whats contraindicative its a fact .

Like I said go fight for fight with Manny and weigh up the differences mentioned and Floyd trumps him , and Im not dogging Mannys resume as a whole only his WW run which is fake made to order , he dont even fight WW now because the top WW will give him hell so he fights JWWs , all his WW fights is full of special conditions or shot fighters hand picked at a certain point in time while they were openly ducked previously when winning , citing Cotto Mosley .

You make an emphasis on whether or not opponents are prime and non-prime and now you debate with a statement like WC...so you are contradicting yourself since you want to use both sides of the argument at your choosing.

Why you so caught up on weight now? Did Floyd win in 8 weight classes?

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Pac cheated 2x on the scales and got KTFO for it!

When did Manny come in over the contracted weight? Honestly I don't recall that at all...don't make things up man.

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Says a lot of people, including the compubox, unbiased boxing gans, announcers of the fight. Take off your Floyd shades already. Castillo won the 1st fight. Mayweather wouldn't be where he is now had he lost so early in his career.

If everyone fought like Mayweather, there would be almost no KO victories.

Looks like the same guys that said JMM was robbed by Manny , do you agree with them ?

Manny was Knocked out in his rematch , Floyd won his clearly , what does that little thing mean to the legacy of both , seeing as " one fight " can make or break the legacy says you ?

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Looks like the same guys that said JMM was robbed by Manny , do you agree with them ?

Manny was Knocked out in his rematch , Floyd won his clearly , what does that little thing mean to the legacy of both , seeing as " one fight " can make or break the legacy says you ?

Like I said, if everyone fought like May, there would be no be virtually no KOs. Manny doesn't clinch, run, and clinch even when he is winning a fight.
Their legacies will always be intertwined for not facing eachother.

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And I can understand you feeling that way. I want to see the same thing. But, do you give the same criticism when Pac fights a Rios running?

Look, I agree with a lot of what you are saying. But you should know what Floyd is about. He is a safety first boxer with brittle hands, fighting a much bigger puncher. If you were gonna believe something he said, you should've believed what he said right after the first fight. Just like the Castillo fight, he fought a much different fight the second time around.

Tell you what. I would much rather Floyd cherry pick opponents who present minimal stylistic problems to him because at least that way, I would be guaranteed an exhibition and honest display of his wizardry as seen when he fought Marquez.

In the Maidana rematch, he was actually looking up at the clock to see how much time was left before he could collect my $75 contribution to his ridiculous salary. That left a bad taste in my mouth. That was just bad form on Floyd's part.

With all due respect, the Cotto fight was no cherry pick and I thought Floyd really delivered the goods and reinforced his status as a premier boxer and I appreciate the hell out of his efforts. However, it was obvious there was something he didn't like about the experience and the changes he made going forward are parts of the game that I have no respect for.

As for the Rios question...
Pacquiao landed 281/790 for 36%.
Mayweather in the Maidana rematch was 102/177 for 58%.

I don't mind "running" when it's equipped with throwing. But that stuff Mayweather pulled in his last fight reached Amir Khan running from Maidana during the championship round levels. But at least Amir was on ***** street and it was exciting to if he was going to survive.

And for the record, one of my favorite rounds of all times was round 1 of Ali vs Floyd Patterson. Ali didn't throw one punch for the entire round but made a point to everybody watching that he could stay in the danger zone and make Patterson miss every single punch he threw. That's ring generalship.