Comments Thread For: Kathy Duva outlines Al Haymon's deal with NBC Sports

[crazed_z06]

Im confused, are these fights going to be on the NBC network TV OR the NBC Sports cable channel? If it's on the cable channel, it's really not the big of deal because they were already playing some obscure fights. Also, a lot of people dont even get the NBC and CBS Sports network packages with their cable.

[Mitchell Kane]

Im confused, are these fights going to be on the NBC network TV OR the NBC Sports cable channel? If it's on the cable channel, it's really not the big of deal because they were already playing some obscure fights. Also, a lot of people dont even get the NBC and CBS Sports network packages with their cable.

24 fight dates, of those four "might" be on primetime regular NBC...one possibly on the week after the Super Bowl.

If there is an equivalent to the "UFC on FOX 1" card that had Velasquez-Dos Santos, this might likely be it.

[radioraheem]

I saw a good graphic but I couldn't find it again, but this is from 2011 which gives you a rough idea of what a commercial costs. You can flick through the days.

http://adage.com/article/media/chart-american-idol-nfl-duke-priciest-tv-spot/230547/#mon

Sunday night football on NBC was equal with American Idol, it cost $512k for a 30 minute commercial but the average viewers is 27 million. Hard to see boxing show pulling anywhere close to that.

Thanks. I'm familiar with the production costs of an actual commercial. But not as familiar with the airtime costs. So article was interesting.

[Mitchell Kane]

Advertising Revenue! Since he paid for those Date/Time Slots, that means he will get all of the money from the Ads/Commercial Ran during those Time Slots. Also think he can set his price as far as how much it will cost to run ads during his event. So considering the average cost to buy a Commercial Ad on network TV, ONE Commercial Break will likely take care of the fighters Purse and more.

If this thing is successful, then after this contract is up with NBC either NBC will have to pay him to stay or another network could come along and offer Haymon big money to move his show to their network

People need to temper their expectations on the potential viewership of these events (and the ad revenue that will come from them).

NBC Sports isn't NBC.
And Boxing isn't the Super Bowl or the Olympics.

If you want to get an idea of the ratings NBC Sports and Fox Sports 1 are doing, take a look at this:

http://awfulannouncing.com/2014/nbcsn-fox-sports-ratings-buzz-september-15-21.html

And as a reference, here are the numbers fights like Santa Cruz-Guevara and Adamek-Cunningham did:

http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id/8769075/tomasz-adamek-steve-cunningham-rematch-network-revival

http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/boxing/post/_/id/2865/1-6-million-watched-adamek-cunningham

[Weebler I]

People need to temper their expectations on the potential viewership of these events (and the ad revenue that will come from them).

NBC Sports isn't NBC.
And Boxing isn't the Super Bowl or the Olympics.

If you want to get an idea of the ratings NBC Sports and Fox Sports 1 are doing, take a look at this:

http://awfulannouncing.com/2014/nbcsn-fox-sports-ratings-buzz-september-15-21.html

And as a reference, here are the numbers fights like Santa Cruz-Guevara and Adamek-Cunningham did:

http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id/8769075/tomasz-adamek-steve-cunningham-rematch-network-revival

http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/box...mek-cunningham

If ad money isn't going to cover it, where is he getting the money to pay the fighters?

[Deevel916]

If ad money isn't going to cover it, where is he getting the money to pay the fighters?

Rick Glaser's opinion on the move.

Haymon/#NBC #boxing deal intriguing observers. I think "it can be an artistic success, but will be a financial failure"
Will flow "Red Ink"

[Bullrider]

Like the splash he/GBP made when they first landed on Showtime - there were lots of terrific fights. Who knows, maybe this deal is why he has been holding back so badly with the good fights.

This being boxing though, I have very little hope it's all gonna work out well.

Maybe the sport just isn't cut out for mainstream consumption. We all want it so bad but there must be a reason no-one can make it happen. I

f Haymon pulls it off, he's a genius.

Good post.

Boxing will remain a niche sport no matter how much time and money people invest in it. There have been several attempts to make it a mainstream consumption. There was SRL's Contender; I recall catching years ago what looked like a newly-produced live boxing show on prime time supplemented with glitz, glamour and fireworks. It didn't last. My guess is that in the end it's really all about the fights. Oftentimes, the entire card suck and bore people to death. I have to admit I was included in that category of the audience at that time. Took me years to appreciate all variety of fights. I doubt you can draw new people that fast and make them regular viewers especially in this day and age where many forms of entertainment abound.

I think this Haymon guy is just here for short-term basis only. He seems to hop in from one network to the next, rip them off, then find another one to rip off.

[Mitchell Kane]

Good post.

Boxing will remain a niche sport no matter how much time and money people invest in it. There have been several attempts to make it a mainstream consumption. There was SRL's Contender; I recall catching years ago what looked like a newly-produced live boxing show on prime time supplemented with glitz, glamour and fireworks. It didn't last. My guess is that in the end it's really all about the fights. Oftentimes, the entire card suck and bore people to death. I have to admit I was included in that category of the audience at that time. Took me years to appreciate all variety of fights. I doubt you can draw new people that fast and make them regular viewers especially in this day and age where many forms of entertainment abound.

I think this Haymon guy is just here for short-term basis only. He seems to hop in from one network to the next, rip them off, then find another one to rip off.

That's what Thomas Hauser wrote a few months ago...that sources were telling him that after a year of 24 NBC events that he would want to transition into a subscription service.

[IMDAZED]

Good post.

Boxing will remain a niche sport no matter how much time and money people invest in it. There have been several attempts to make it a mainstream consumption. There was SRL's Contender; I recall catching years ago what looked like a newly-produced live boxing show on prime time supplemented with glitz, glamour and fireworks. It didn't last. My guess is that in the end it's really all about the fights. Oftentimes, the entire card suck and bore people to death. I have to admit I was included in that category of the audience at that time. Took me years to appreciate all variety of fights. I doubt you can draw new people that fast and make them regular viewers especially in this day and age where many forms of entertainment abound.

I think this Haymon guy is just here for short-term basis only. He seems to hop in from one network to the next, rip them off, then find another one to rip off.

He may be there short-term but I don't get this hop from one network to another business that you claim he seems to do. He was at HBO for nearly 15 years. He's still at Showtime until we see otherwise too. He's a manager and any wise manager wouldn't be beholden to one network anyway.

[Pony Boy]

Lot of ghostwriters trying to hype the hype.