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  • #91
    Originally posted by mathed View Post
    Yeah, I know not all of them are power punchers but can you name one US power puncher, just one? I can't think of one except Wilder and he is just a physical freak.
    Thurman? 87.5% KO ratio.

    Originally posted by HEND View Post
    This will be decied by the betting sites if he will move up to 175 and fights these guys. I'm pretty sure that Ward would be the betting favourite agains any of the 175lb guys if it would happen now. But you openly hating on him as I see... He haven't got any contract from Kovalev or Stevenson and he is not in the same division with them, sadly he isn't even fighting nowadays so he hardly turned down them. Stevenson was busy with chasing the Hopkins fight but they screwed up. But you think that after he cleaned out a very strong SMW he would have absolutley no chance just one division higher? Based on this logic Crawford wouldn't have the fantasy nod over 140lb fighters cause he didn't earn it or Rigondeaux wouldn't get the nod over 126lb fighters cause he didn't earn it. It's not just depend on if they fought at that weight or not... When a fighter moves up in weight you automatically give the nod to his opponents in the new weight class just because he is new there? And if not then who else earned more than Ward a fantasy nod against the guys one division higher? Ward has one of the best resumes in the sport right now and his inactivity isn't effect his quality. He is as good as he was, he didn't take much punishment and he isn't that old. 30 years old only. I don't know why so much people think that he is over. Even if he comes back just in 2016, he will be still just 32 years old, like Golovkin now. I guess many people want him to be over and that's the reason.
    He did turn them down. Stevenson offered him a fight at 168 with a rematch at 175. Ward wasn't interested. He has openly said he's not interested in a Kovalev fight either and won't be moving up to 175.

    I don't have an issue with Ward, I have an issue with people trying to give him fantasy wins over bigger elite fighters in a weight class above him based on sweet FA.

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    • #92
      I don't see how Clouds lack of effort had anything to do with the outcome. He's never been a world beater but he didnt look any different than normal until he was hurt. He was throwing punches and it didnt appear as if he came to just lay down. Bieber just managed to generate an enormous amount of torque on short punches. Cloud even started throwing again at the beginning of the 2nd round, Bieber just has crazy power.

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      • #93
        Originally posted by Vilicious86 View Post
        Beterbiev has strange power. I wonder what the testing protocols were for this fight.
        he's just incredibly strong, i've watched two fights(second fight and this cloud fight) of his and he seems to *** people up on the inside when they are trying to clinch him or think he's smothered

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        • #94
          Beterbehave has an impressive amateur resume fought at HW for a portion of it as well I think he's really big for the weight and a grown man at 30 he'll be a CW eventually but for right now he can make noise quickly.

          I'd guess he ends up on a network next time or at least in 2 fights against a durable boxer than we'll see.

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          • #95
            what was most impressive was he landed the big shots while in a clinch, how he was able to generate force behind his shots without being able to contort his body is really startling. Or maybe Cloud is just chinny.

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            • #96
              Beterbiev has monster power.

              I want Beterbiev vs Stevenson.

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              • #97
                Ko power in his short hooks? Wtf is up wit dat lol

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                • #98
                  Cloud does not have much options from here. He is officially a stepping stone now, which is sad, because he is a pretty cool down to earth guy.

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by Vilicious86 View Post
                    Beterbiev has strange power. I wonder what the testing protocols were for this fight.
                    He's always been a beast.

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                    • Whats wrong with boxingscene?

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