Comments Thread For: Pacquiao, Algieri Agree To VADA Random Drug Testing

[ThePrince]

If Memo knows how to beat USADA, then he knows how to beat VADA. It's not like they have some secret formula that no cheater can solve. And they're babes in the field with a very small sample size.

Great. Never argued that he couldn't. Just pointing out that people who think that USADA's methods are somehow infallible are sorely misguided. Just shows what an absolute joke Boxing is organizationally that a scumbag like Heredia would be allowed to be within 100 yards of any boxer. But now he's hanging out with the face of the sport (doing who knows what exactly?)?

That's a bad look for the sport. But like the recent NSAC hearing where the commission let elicit drug use, endangering fighters in human ****fighting, and illegal ******** slide on a fighter's word that it was just all a reality TV hoax... this is the norm for the sport.

[joesaiditstrue]

Without Mayweather Donaire would be doing no testing , without Mayweather OST in boxing would be a non event , you hating fanboys are pathetic !!

where's your proof of this bullshit statement? you have none, you're SPECULATING with no evidence whatsoever.

Donaire is doing real OST drug testing, Floyd does it when it's convenient for him and fools the fans into thinking it's legit when it fucking isn't

[megadeth]

Are you seriously insinuating that Memo fabricated his entire History and thus incriminated himself? Why the hell would he do that?

And to answer the bold- the U.S. Justice Dept. had him under investigation and had 160 wiretapped phone conversation transcripts, emails, bank statements proving crimes. That's why he became a government snitch. He didn't do that because he was making stuff up for unknown reasons.

Again... his clients, including Marion Jones, never tested positive while being tested randomly dozens of times, year round by USADA.

Incriminate himself? What are you talking about? He had already been caught, how could he incriminate himself? The only thing him admitting those things would do would make him look more important than he was. Why would he not? If an athlete wants to use who would they want to go to other than the guy "claiming" to have created 20 substances that are undetectable? Again, show me ANY proof he was under investigation because he was creating drugs and it was not for supplying.

SO WHAT! You keep mentioning that....Lance Armstrong never got caught either, does that mean the things he was using was undetectable? What part of "at the time, HGH, EPO and short acting testosterone" were much harder to detect don't you understand?

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poor flo mos

[ThePrince]

Incriminate himself? What are you talking about? He had already been caught, how could he incriminate himself?

Lying under oath. Making false claims to federal authorities. You do know Heredia was a snitch who gave court testimony on his doping programs and activities right?

Now why on Earth would he make up lies thereby risking his immunity status... just to sound important? That makes literally no sense my dude.

SO WHAT! You keep mentioning that....Lance Armstrong never got caught either, does that mean the things he was using was undetectable? What part of "at the time, HGH, EPO and short acting testosterone" were much harder to detect don't you understand?

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/12/sp...anted=all&_r=0

[IMDAZED]

Great. Never argued that he couldn't. Just pointing out that people who think that USADA's methods are somehow infallible are sorely misguided. Just shows what an absolute joke Boxing is organizationally that a scumbag like Heredia would be allowed to be within 100 yards of any boxer. But now he's hanging out with the face of the sport (doing who knows what exactly?)?

That's a bad look for the sport. But like the recent NSAC hearing where the commission let elicit drug use, endangering fighters in human ****fighting, and illegal ******** slide on a fighter's word that it was just all a reality TV hoax... this is the norm for the sport.

Everyone knows that unbeatable testing hasn't been created yet. That includes VADA.

[megadeth]

Lying under oath. Making false claims to federal authorities. You do know Heredia was a snitch who gave court testimony on his doping programs and activities right?

Now why on Earth would he make up lies thereby risking his immunity status... just to sound important? That makes literally no sense my dude.

Yes I know he a snitch. Do you have transcripts to his testimony? The only thing I have ever seen is that he admitted to supplying EPO, human growth hormone, insulin and maybe testosterone. So unless I am missing something, there is a HUGE difference between that and creating undetectable PED's.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/12/sp...anted=all&_r=0

Too late and too long to read.

[Jbose7]

Was there VADA testing for Pac - Bradley 2????No one has ever answered that question. I'd really like to know. I think if Floyd really tested posistive for something not even Floyd could keep that under wraps because the media loves being first and destroying legacies..... if Barry Bonds and A Rod couldn't keep the media from finding out about their PED use neither can Floyd..... If Floyd and Manny are cheating they'll be exposed at some point but based on the eye test people can make their own conclusions.

[MDPopescu]

Means very little unless you undergo the 365 day a year testing that Nonito Donaire does. Pac and/or Algieri could be juicing now the stuff gets out of their system by the time it's time to test.

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Yes: the 365 days per year random testing is the only reliable testing...

(I don't even know if, right now, VADA has 2-3 boxers who take the 365 days testing...)

[Foreign Soil]

Are you joking? If you have no dog in the fight and you look at credentials and there is one company that tests the US Olympic team for the last 15 yrs and caught countless athletes and another the company that came into existence in the last 5 that has caught less than 10 and has tested most likely less than 100x who would you choose?

Common sense would say that USADA would be better at administering testing from experience alone.

USADA doesn't always test for every specific PED. VADA, on average, has more complete testing. Neither agencies are really worth mentioning unless it's year round, unless you are pushing an agenda.