Example when Clinching is Unacceptable.

[joesaiditstrue]

Who cares how it benefits me, I'm not the one fighting for my livelihood, the fighters are. Floyd could clinch 200 times and you'd still watch it and he'll still get paid 32,000,000 with PPV upside.

Flomo alert.

You're right, you're not the one fighting

So stop pretending to give a **** about what the fighters' thinking

We are fans here, not ****ing groupies who defend bull**** at every chance they get if it benefits their man crush

**** outta here

[Tom Cruise]

Great great example of how a clinch fest fight should be handled.... imagine kenny bayless breaking the inside fight as soon as one of them clinched, maybe duran wouldnt have beaten leonard...they both initiated it as much as the other but with diffrerent purposes, leonard was waiting mostly to get broken up to give room to operate and duran to do what he does best, make it a rough and inside fight...leonard held his own tho on the inside....great refereeing by carlos padilla there...

Exactly. There were plenty of punches being thrown and landed in the clinch. Anytime one guy established a dominant position the other would adjust. If people can't see the skill in that then they aren't looking closely enough.

abraham clinched ward plenty, although they also had a ****** ref

you're right ward always keeps a hand by his face and it's difficult to neutralize him in the clinch

but watch this rd:

Sorry mate the video doesn't work on my phone. But if Abraham did manage to neutralise Ward then all credit to him!

[Weltschmerz]

It is up to the ref at the end of the day. A fair referee will punish excessive clinching, deduct points and disqualify if the clinching goes on and on.

[-PBP-]

Clinching is unacceptable whenever Maidana gets his ass kicked. The only way Maidana loses is because of clinching and corrupt referees. Everybody is out to get Maidana.

[SplitSecond]

Exactly. There were plenty of punches being thrown and landed in the clinch. Anytime one guy established a dominant position the other would adjust. If people can't see the skill in that then they aren't looking closely enough.

didn't see any of that, the ref seldom broke them, for the most part neither guy was really trying to get out of the clinch, nor was leonard giving some death grip even when he had hold of both of durans arms, the ref played the most important role by just slapping the holds(note: he wasn't seperating them) to get a guy to let go, if it's another ref leonard could have easily neutralized duran on multiple occassions with the clinch

what i noticed is even in the days of jack johnson which was known for clinching alot, from what i saw they only clinched one arm max, the other arm woud have to be parried/blocked

this whole super clinch like your hurt through-out an entire fight or pulling a guys head down like wlad for an entire fight is fairly new thing it seems

[Tom Cruise]

didn't see any of that, the ref seldom broke them, for the most part neither guy was really trying to get out of the clinch, nor was leonard giving some death grip even when he had hold of both of durans arms, the ref played the most important role by just slapping the holds(note: he wasn't seperating them) to get a guy to let go

what i noticed is even in the days of jack johnson which was known for clinching alot, from what i saw they only clinched one arm max, the other arm woud have to be parried/blocked

this whole super clinch like your hurt through-out an entire fight or pulling a guys head down like wlad for an entire fight is fairly new thing it seems

What I ask myself when I see these superclinches is why did the clinched fighter let himself get in that position?

I did Judo for years when I was younger, if you end up being held to the point you cant do anything it's because you made a mistake.

Also I think the reason lots of fighters are purely defensive in the clinch is because they know the ref will break them soon. If that didn't happen then they would either try and fight in clinch, break themselves away, or lose the round because they aren't trying to fight.

[Daylyt]

Flomo alert.

You're right, you're not the one fighting

So stop pretending to give a **** about what the fighters' thinking

We are fans here, not ****ing groupies who defend bull**** at every chance they get if it benefits their man crush

**** outta here

these fools have no sense of pride lol, who does what they do? They are in love with mayweather they arent even fans of the sport just the man lol. Not even paid members of Mayweather team stick up for him like they do lmfao.

[LacedUp]

This is the worst I've ever seen in a fight: Unsurprisingly coming from Wladimir Klitschko:



Round 1, first second.

[Tom Cruise]

This is the worst I've ever seen in a fight: Unsurprisingly coming from Wladimir Klitschko:



Round 1, first second.

But for.reals though I think this makes my point about the ref breaking too soon. Povetkin thinks about trying to fight then just gives up.cos the ref pulls them apart

[LacedUp]

But for.reals though I think this makes my point about the ref breaking too soon. Povetkin thinks about trying to fight then just gives up.cos the ref pulls them apart

Well, the ref was absolutely right to break them here because Klitschko was leaning all over him.

A good example of a ref not breaking too soon is Brook-Porter where the ref continuously said "you have one arm free, punch it out" and only proceeded to break when both arms of either fighter were held.

That's how it should be done. But leaning should be broken up asap - Klitschko does that to perfection. His clinch-right lean is a thing of pure beauty.