Comments Thread For: Arum: Mayweather - The Only Impediment in a Deal

[peplz]

We are talking about the same Bob Arum that tried to tell the fans to boycott Mayweather's first fight against Maidana aren't we?

[LouIE G]

And the way you get a higher guaranteed future purse is by fighting and winning. So what would have happened, had arum accepted the guarantees, in the contract, then floyd goes and loses. Can't take the guarantees away now. Floyd is a smart business man. IMO margarito would have stopped him and those guarantees would have went down the toilet.

Margarito again huh??? Shiat you would be a dumbass to not know he would have been wearing bricks in his gloves, the same way he beat your beloved cotto..

[Ray*]

Sure Arum both Showtime and HBO have confirm to you not anyone else that they are willing to share the Mayweather-Pacquiao revenue lol, this man must think we are all Pacquiao fans.

[Real Talk85]

Against what fighters??? and on what dates???

Irrelevant

Outside of Oscar no one Floyd fought can draw half of what he does on a bad day. Not even Cotto who is one of the top 4 PPV draws. They have to fight Floyd to draw those types of numbers not the other way around. Floyd has pulled over a million with less.

[LouIE G]

Against what fighters??? and on what dates???

De la hoya,and canelo.. pac vs cotto did 1.2 million, floyd vs cotto (after pac) 1.5 million

[Bronx2245]

And the way you get a higher guaranteed future purse is by fighting and winning. So what would have happened, had arum accepted the guarantees, in the contract, then floyd goes and loses. Can't take the guarantees away now. Floyd is a smart business man. IMO margarito would have stopped him and those guarantees would have went down the toilet.

Margarito had problems with movement. I don't think he wins against Cotto without the wraps. He lost to Williams and Mosely. I like Margarito's heart but his skill was overrated. Anyway, Floyd left those offers on the table, and went and set the record for the highest PPV event ever, with Oscar getting $23 guaranteed, and him getting $10 million. Like you said, you get the higher guarantees by fighting and winning. That's what Manny should have done, took the $40 million:

Pacquiao

11/12/11 - vs. Juan Manuel Marquez - $6,000,000 *
05/07/11 - vs. Shane Mosley - $6,000,000
11/14/09 - vs. Miguel Cotto - $7,400,000
05/02/09 - vs. Ricky Hatton - $7,400,000
12/06/08 - vs. Oscar De La Hoya - $6,600,000
06/28/08 - vs. David Diaz - $3,000,000
03/15/08 - vs. Juan Manuel Marquez - $3,000,000
10/06/07 - vs. Marco Antonio Barrera - $2,000,000
11/18/06 - vs. Erik Morales - $3,000,000
01/21/06 - vs. Erik Morales - $2,000.000
-- ----------------------------------------------------
TOTAL = $46,400,000

Mayweather

09/17/11 - vs. Victor Ortiz - $25,000,000
05/01/10 - vs. Shane Mosley - $22,500,000
09/19/09 - vs. Juan Manuel Marquez - $10,000,000
12/08/07 - vs. Ricky Hatton - $11,000,000
05/05/07 - vs. Oscar De La Hoya - $10,000,000
11/04/06 - vs. Carlos Baldomir - $8,000,001
04/08/06 - vs. Zab Judah - $5,000,000
------------------------------------------------------
TOTAL = $91,500,001

Although the documents do not disclose revenue also generated from pay-per-view upside, it's extremely doubtful that Pacquiao is getting significantly more than Mayweather in that department, especially considering that they both do similar numbers and in Pacquiao's case, Top Rank retains 27.5%. While I personally believe the subject of a 50/50 split is irrelevant, mainly because Bob Arum was never interested in staging the fight on May 5 to begin with, given those numbers, it's understandable why Mayweather might allegedly inform Pacquiao that a $40 million guarantee would be significantly more money than he's been currently making.

http://www.fighthype.com/pages/content11628.html

[bigjavi973]

Irrelevant

Outside of Oscar no one Floyd fought can draw half of what he does on a bad day. Not even Cotto who is one of the top 4 PPV draws. They have to fight Floyd to draw those types of numbers not the other way around. Floyd has pulled over a million with less.

You never answered my questions

[bigjavi973]

De la hoya,and canelo.. pac vs cotto did 1.2 million, floyd vs cotto (after pac) 1.5 million

Thanx for answering the question for him bro

[bigjavi973]

Margarito had problems with movement. I don't think he wins against Cotto without the wraps. He lost to Williams and Mosely. I like Margarito's heart but his skill was overrated. Anyway, Floyd left those offers on the table, and went and set the record for the highest PPV event ever, with Oscar getting $23 guaranteed, and him getting $10 million. Like you said, you get the higher guarantees by fighting and winning. That's what Manny should have done, took the $40 million:

Pacquiao

11/12/11 - vs. Juan Manuel Marquez - $6,000,000 *
05/07/11 - vs. Shane Mosley - $6,000,000
11/14/09 - vs. Miguel Cotto - $7,400,000
05/02/09 - vs. Ricky Hatton - $7,400,000
12/06/08 - vs. Oscar De La Hoya - $6,600,000
06/28/08 - vs. David Diaz - $3,000,000
03/15/08 - vs. Juan Manuel Marquez - $3,000,000
10/06/07 - vs. Marco Antonio Barrera - $2,000,000
11/18/06 - vs. Erik Morales - $3,000,000
01/21/06 - vs. Erik Morales - $2,000.000
-- ----------------------------------------------------
TOTAL = $46,400,000

Mayweather

09/17/11 - vs. Victor Ortiz - $25,000,000
05/01/10 - vs. Shane Mosley - $22,500,000
09/19/09 - vs. Juan Manuel Marquez - $10,000,000
12/08/07 - vs. Ricky Hatton - $11,000,000
05/05/07 - vs. Oscar De La Hoya - $10,000,000
11/04/06 - vs. Carlos Baldomir - $8,000,001
04/08/06 - vs. Zab Judah - $5,000,000
------------------------------------------------------
TOTAL = $91,500,001

Although the documents do not disclose revenue also generated from pay-per-view upside, it's extremely doubtful that Pacquiao is getting significantly more than Mayweather in that department, especially considering that they both do similar numbers and in Pacquiao's case, Top Rank retains 27.5%. While I personally believe the subject of a 50/50 split is irrelevant, mainly because Bob Arum was never interested in staging the fight on May 5 to begin with, given those numbers, it's understandable why Mayweather might allegedly inform Pacquiao that a $40 million guarantee would be significantly more money than he's been currently making.

http://www.fighthype.com/pages/content11628.html

Point taken. Don't you think that this pac-floyd fight, that floyd would get the MOST money he's ever gotten though? Your thoughts?

[LouIE G]

BIGJAVI,You nit picked 5 of my posts from page 11 on up, so its safe to say your on my **** not the othere way around. Answer my question though, do you think marg would have used plaster on floyd??? Theres only one answer anything else is UNCIVILIZED!