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  • #71
    Originally posted by New England View Post
    mosley also had an amazing chin in his prime. he was a very rough go at 135 and 147, but it wasn't because of how skilled he was. he was extremely talented. hard puncher, very fast hands and explosive feet, and a great chin. that's the whole package, in terms of the athletic talent you bring with you to the sport.
    Mosley had a great chin throughout his career.

    One of the best chins of this era IMO.

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    • #72
      Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
      Mosley had a great chin throughout his career.

      One of the best chins of this era IMO.
      I had no idea Mundine beat him by stoppage. When I heard that I flipped out, but then someone told me Mosley quit because of an injury and it made sense.

      The idea of Anthony Mundine stopping Shane Mosley was more than my brain could handle.

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      • #73
        Myth: Mayweather-Cotto fight was so close that some guys have 4-4 or 5-5 after ten rounds.
        My opinion: Cotto won only 2-3 rounds.Yeah it was a good fight but Floyd wasn't in danger at any round or seemed like that he doesn't know what to do with Miguel.Fights with Maidana were much tougher.
        Myth: Judah is most talent boxer in history.
        My opinion: talent it's not just a good speed, it is about your mind, Judah never had a boxer brain.I don't saying about his psyhco problems, I am talking about he never had a really good skills.And as result he was knocking out with first good fighter.
        Last edited by Jimmy 23; 09-21-2014, 12:08 PM.

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        • #74
          Floyd isnt juicing

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          • #75
            Another myth is that Vitali was destroying Lennox lewis before it was stopped due to the cut. The truth is that the fight was getting closer after a good start from Vitali and Lewis was starting to gain momentum in that 6th round and looked to be taking over the fight. Both guys were exhausted though.

            Also the Myth that Hearns had no chin. His chin was not bad at all. He could be hurt and it wasn't Granite but before the Hagler fight, the only guy to beat him in around 40 fights was Leonard. If he had no chin, he would have been stopped more before then.

            The myth Naseem Hamed was a hype job. He was a really good fighter who ran into Barrera when he was already on the down side of his career, no passion for it and his hands were shot to pieces. It's not a complete excuse of why he lost the fight, Barrera was great and a legend but Hamed a few years earlier would be been right in the mix of great fighters from that era had he fought them. He probably peaked before the huge fights came along.

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            • #76
              "There's no difference between horsehair gloves and foam gloves"

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              • #77
                Floyd made big adjustments on the maidana rematch.

                Truth: referee was the adjustment.

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                • #78
                  Originally posted by GoldenGloveLove View Post
                  1. Floyd made a career out of ducking guys. Dumbest myth in delusional fans' minds. Doesn't even make any sense.

                  2. You have to TAKE the title from the champ. The hell that even mean? You either beat somebody or you don't. Anybody, champ or not. You either got the best of it on the cards or you didn't.

                  3. Andre Ward is a routine headbutter/dirty fighter. His head came together with Kessler's a lot but since then? I don't see it. They try to sell that as a knock on Ward but it's BS. Hops uses his head a lot more than that when he can. Ward/Kessler had nothing to do with Ward being dirty. Clash of styles like Bradley/Alexander. Bradley's not dirty either. Ward's not a dirty fighter. Butthurt Kessler fans want that to follow him forever. Fan of both personally.

                  4. That either Floyd or Manny are anymore cherrypickers than anybody else who is a star fighter. They're only held to ****** standards. Nobody says jack about Marquez fighting Ramos or Fedchenko but people b*tch about Mayweather/Maidana for a unification or Pacquiao/Bradley? Those are some seriously different standards and different standards are great myth creators.

                  5. That all Floyd fans hate Pacquiao and all Pacquiao fans hate Mayweather. Real fans know both are great and respect their abilities and accomplishments.

                  6. The myth that being slick is about how good you are. It's a style, it has nothing to do with how good you are with that style. People talk about guys that use a LOT of slickness in their defense and even though they're not that good with it and get hit a lot people act like just because they aren't Mayweather or Rigo that must mean they're not slick. If you use a lot of movement and angles to slip punches as the better part of your defense, that's being slick. You MAY be crappy at it but it doesn't mean you're slick. It's like the equivalent of if everybody compared all pressure fighters to Chavez Senior and anyone who wasn't as good as that you just claimed they weren't a pressure fighters at all. Styles and levels are not the same thing. There's a lot of slick fighters out there. Most of them aren't world class though. And the ones that are might be of different levels. Lara is a slick world class contender. Rigo is a slick p4p elite. But they're both slick.

                  7. The myth that Wlad and Vitali somehow doubleteamed the division and Wlad got "help" from Vitali and it devalued his reign. Wlad fought almost all the best contenders of the post Lennox era, Vitali fought almost none. Vitali "helped" Wlad not fight who? Kevin Johnson? Adamek? Really? Because Adamek was the highest rated contender and only real earned Ring rated contender Vitali fought that Wlad didn't already fight (Peter) since his comeback. That's called singleteamed not doubleteamed. lol If Vitali fought any of Povetkin, Chambers, Haye, Ibragimov, Chagaev, Thompson...naw. He didn't. Not one. The Vitali help myth must die. It's been a Wlad era not a Klitschkos era.



                  TRUTH. Ali was lighting Foreman up with combinations the whole time. He was clearly winning that fight when the knockout happened. Not that it was easy and he didn't get his body battered but he was still clearly winning.
                  Great Post.

                  Originally posted by Box-Office View Post
                  This is the most LOL one for me personally.

                  People think you can "improve" punching power. You can improve your technique and put more weight in shots and that shall certainly add venom to a certain extent, but you can't go from feather fisted to a puncher. Don't you think guys like Bradley would've figured out if there was a way to become a puncher?
                  This post on the other hand is a complete contradiction. Not so great.

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                  • #79
                    Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
                    Mosley had a great chin throughout his career.

                    One of the best chins of this era IMO.


                    i think that's fair.

                    he shied away from the punishment from manny, but i think that was more ofa case of his will being broken down than his chin. manny did hurt him, but his legs looked mostly intact soon after he got back up.

                    they touched gloves an awful lot, IIRC


                    he ate all of canelo's bombs, and we know that he can punch.
                    cotto
                    oscar
                    vargas

                    all could punch.

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                    • #80
                      i think oscar at 147 was the best puncher shane faced, and he did land some of his best gas. mosley has one of the better chins of the last 20 years.


                      he's up there with margarito, james toney,

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