Top 20 Fighters Since World War II

[NEETzsche]

The 20 I offered for the list:

1. Sugar Ray Robinson
2. Ezzard Charles
3. Henry Armstrong
4. Roberto Duran
5. Muhammad Ali
6. Archie Moore
7. Sugar Ray Leonard
8. Willie Pep
9. Pernell Whitaker
10. Joe Louis
11. Roy Jones Jr.
12. Carlos Monzon
13. Bernard Hopkins
14. Manny Pacquiao
15. Julio Cesar Chavez
16. Miguel Canto
17. Eder Jofre
18. Marvin Hagler
19. Floyd Mayweather
20. Carlos Ortiz

In retrospect, I probably whiffed not including Gavilan and Williams. Lot of great fighters.

i definitely agree with hopkins being higher than pacquiao and mayweather. although i'd have him above jones jr as well.

[crold1]

i definitely agree with hopkins being higher than pacquiao and mayweather. although i'd have him above jones jr as well.

Hopkins longevity makes people forget how long Jones was THAT good. His best was better than Hopkins IMO much the same way Charles was better than Moore despite not lasting as long.

[MrRolltide91]

Good list....

[embryo]

No Tyson, Larry Holmes or Holyfield? I mean come on...these guys kept the sport alive, and in Tysons case, he single handedly revived ans saved the sport. Idiot writers. I hate Burt Sugar. He hates Tyson for whatever reason. Well glad I don't have to see his ugly yellow teeth anymore.

[embryo]

interesting to see floyd ranked so high

guess people are starting to realise how privileged they've been to witness his career now that it's in its twilight

LOL...only privileged if you got to watch Floyds fights without having to pay for them out of your own pocket. I consider myself a victim when I pay for a Floyd PPV fight.

[MattysEyeThough]

I think it has something to do with this...

Looks like an advertisement for PEDs.

[MisanthropicNY]

In the October issue of Ring magazine, they asked 20 writers and historians to list their top 20 fighters since World War 2.
Points were awarded to each fighter : 20 points for 1st place placing, 19 points for 2nd place ect, ect.
Here is how the total came out. The number of 1st place votes are in brackets:


1. Ray Robinson - 396pts - (17)
2. Henry Armstrong - 339 - (1)
3. Muhammad Ali - 324 - (1)
4. Roberto Duran - 296
5. Joe Luis - 293
6. Ray Leonard - 258
7. Willie Pep - 246 - (1)
8. Archie Moore - 189
9. Julio Cesar Chavez - 171
10. Ezzard Charles - 164
11. Perenell Whitaker - 132
12. Floyd Mayweather Jr - 118
13. Marvin Hagler - 117
14. Carlos Monzon - 98
15. Eder Jofre - 86
16. Sandy Saddler - 82
17. Roy Jones Jr - 80
18. Rocky Marciano - 77
19. Bernard Hopkins - 66
20. Ike Williams - 55

I hate lists like this because they are too vague... I'd go by who was the best in their prime..and cover a period of time... Hopkins gets overrated because he's a compiler of wins and titles... Hopkins lost to Dawson and Calzaghe clearly... although he has a great win over Tarver...We need to pin point HOpkins' prime years...Pacquiao from 06-11 was an unstoppable force and way better than JCC...would have dominated Chavez Sr..Pac from 06-11 was better than most if not all of this list...

[The Big Dunn]

I hate lists like this because they are too vague... I'd go by who was the best in their prime..and cover a period of time... Hopkins gets overrated because he's a compiler of wins and titles... Hopkins lost to Dawson and Calzaghe clearly... although he has a great win over Tarver...We need to pin point HOpkins' prime years...Pacquiao from 06-11 was an unstoppable force and way better than JCC...would have dominated Chavez Sr..Pac from 06-11 was better than most if not all of this list...

the real reason you hate lists like this because Manny isn't on it at #1.

you can't just count when manny didn't lose, you have to count the losses as well.

[MisanthropicNY]

I don't see how you can justify Marciano being on that list.

Marciano never lost and was willing to fight everyone of his era... Floyd is undefeated but really lost to Castillo and ducked Winky, Manny, Margarito and would never fight guys like Triple G.. etc...

That's why...

[MisanthropicNY]

the real reason you hate lists like this because Manny isn't on it.

Uhh, you can't just count when many didn't lose, you have to count the losses as well.

That makes no sense... Why is simplifying everything so appealing to people?? It's not about Manny but the Manny who got fouled but the fouls got counted as KOs early in his career... couldn't beat anyone on the list that were near his weight division... and the Manny who fought with only his left hand..would lose to most on the list.. Of course, I think Manny should be on the list, he won titles in 8 weight divisions... but you have to pin-point what years you're talking about.. or else it's silly overly simplified list...

Hopkins should be number one on the list if we're going by the entirety of a career...

Additionally, Sugar Ray Robinson was not that great at Middleweight..he fought Clowns literally lol fought a guy who worked in the circus and fought part-time and had a bit of a fight on his hands lol...

Sugar Ray Robinson at Welterweight was a super force... so let's pin-point...

Sugar Ray Robinson during his Welterweight years was a force... just as Sugar Shane Mosley as a lightweight was a beast... but decided to chase pay checks and move up in weight where his size wasn't an advantage...

The Pacquiao who fought De La Hoya was amazing... moving on his feet, making De La Hoya miss and countering... Pac from that fight on... got way better and was unbeatable for about 5 years...