Either Alex Ariza is the man or knows something we don't know

[radioraheem]

You promptly changed your stance on Ariza.

And what stance was that?

He's giving a lot of background information about Ariza that I had not heard before. I'm acknowledging that information, it's interesting.

[hectari]

Very, very, very interesting stuff. Thanks for the information. Hadn't heard of any of it.

I had heard of Ariza giving Corrales and Morales some garbage and getting released because of it. But all that Terri Tom stuff, was unknown to me. I agree, this is the last chance for Ariza with his new ties to Floyd. If he ruins that, he's gone for good.

I'm not sure if Floyd will give Ariza a try because he's been so successful for so long on his own. But Floyd does need someone to help him not overtrain, because he trains with so much intensity. And because he trains year round, he gets into fighting shape within a mere few weeks. That is one thing people don't realise in as far as how easy it is for him to overtrain.

I agree that Garcia had it wrong for Maidana. Maidana looks visibly more tired than the first fight.

I hope Floyd gives Ariza a try, look at what Memo was able to do for Marquez at 41 Marquez is hitting harder than ever. Floyd workouts are not for power, what Ariza does with Teri Tom is develop workouts that let you maintain the stamina, but add in speed and power to the mix.

This is the type of workout Floyd will be doing it will be an excellent change of pace from his monotonous workouts, and Floyds body type will respond well, Ariza is also good at avoiding shoulder injuries because of his stretching background he always makes sure guys do proper form and makes sure to massage and stretch them to avoid such injuries. Not one of his fighters has ever developed a shoulder problem.

[Dr Rumack]

I really have no idea, if I'm honest.

First time I saw him was when he was in Corrales corner.

I'm guessing his reputation got him into Pacquaio's camp and he made his name for his work with him.

But honestly I don't know.

I know a good few guys who are in that business and it seems to be extremely competitive. It must be tough to stand out from the crowd and get the big gigs. Luck seems to play a big part, although I'm sure hustle counts for a lot too.

[radioraheem]

I hope Floyd gives Ariza a try, look at what Memo was able to do for Marquez at 41 Marquez is hitting harder than ever. Floyd workouts are not for power, what Ariza does with Teri Tom is develop workouts that let you maintain the stamina, but add in speed and power to the mix.

This is the type of workout Floyd will be doing it will be an excellent change of pace from his monotonous workouts, and Floyds body type will respond well, Ariza is also good at avoiding shoulder injuries because of his stretching background he always makes sure guys do proper form and makes sure to massage and stretch them to avoid such injuries. Not one of his fighters has ever developed a shoulder problem.

Memo did wonders for Marquez. But I'm still su****ious because Marquez has freakish power now. I don't believe he can get so powerful naturally like that to the point of KO'ing guys unconscious.

Then again, Marquez still seems to be a bit chinny. Was Teri Tom on All-Access for Mayweather vs. Maidana 1? I remember Ariza using a computer program and he had like a little staff with him (I think it was a woman).

[hectari]

I guess, maybe you do have a point about the loyalty thing in boxing. But yeah, it does seem like Floyd is keeping Ariza on a short leash at the moment. And you do have a point that Floyd's body may be too used to his same routines. But as I said in another post, I think Floyd probably needs more balance in his training regimen during training camp specifically. Because he enters training camp in complete shape already. So two months of intense training may not be good for him anymore at this stage. Maybe years ago it was okay and his body could adjust better.

I remember his father telling him to taper off on training so much and rest his body. Said Floyd used to be training for 7 hours a day.

That Terri Tom stuff is very interesting though. I'm going to look up her stuff more. She's totally under the radar.

I think Floyd ruined his power because of the way he trains on the punching bag. He trains like if his arms are running a marathon instead of loading for explosive power. He also does patty cake mitt sessions.

When you hit that heavybag every single day for 2 hours and just throw arm punches, you are sacrificing the power, you are just building marathoner endurance this is for shoulder muscle endurance so your arms stay up and don't get tired, but Floyd doesn't need that, he fights with one arm down anyway and he has limited punch output.

He is sacrificing power big time, i think if he follows Ariza's training he will have power again. He needs to stop focusing on shoulder endurance and focus on explosive punching. this is what I never understood with Floyd he doesn't throw many punches anyway yet he throws over 1000 on the bag and most of it is arm punches, in a fight he is like a sniper and throws one shot at a time, he would benefit more from explosive power punching training than he would doing 2 hours a day of patty cake and arm punching, for a sniper puncher like Floyd you need to get respect, Maidana didnt respect his power at all, if Floyd developed power and threw those laser sharp right hands he would be able to hurt guys or mark them up if you are a pot shotter you should focus on POWER make those limited times you throw count.

[VatoMulatto]

Khan, Pac, Maidana etc have all been different fighters after leaving Ariza; Especially regarding their punch output and performance dwindling.

Floyd used movements in the rematch so he make it look easy. He didn't trade with Maidana and being on the ropes for 80% of the fight. Had Floyd fought the same way in their first fight Maidana would've looked slow and one-dimesional.

[Free Booty Dew!]

Pac looked leaner back then, maybe he should hire Tom independently?

[Free Booty Dew!]

And what stance was that?

He's giving a lot of background information about Ariza that I had not heard before. I'm acknowledging that information, it's interesting.

You were part of the ''Ariza shakes'' crowd.

[hectari]

Memo did wonders for Marquez. But I'm still su****ious because Marquez has freakish power now. I don't believe he can get so powerful naturally like that to the point of KO'ing guys unconscious.

Then again, Marquez still seems to be a bit chinny. Was Teri Tom on All-Access for Mayweather vs. Maidana 1? I remember Ariza using a computer program and he had like a little staff with him (I think it was a woman).

yes she was, she was measuring Maidana body fat and calculating his calories and supplementation what he needed.


Yeah Memo is shady as hell, I do believe he is giving Marquez some peds though, but the training Marquez is doing helps too.

Ariza though the proof is in the pudding like Floyd said when Khan, Pacquiao and Maidana were with Ariza they were beasts. Maidana destroyed Broner with grazing power shots too, and in the first fight with Floyd he looked way better.

Ariza with Tom are legit, why would she cheat she would make UCLA look bad she works there.

Ariza will not cook floyds food, all he will do is give Mayweather chef the meals that he needs and the type of food he should eat and Floyd will eat them.

I think Floyds diet plays a role, he might be in shape, just because he looks it, but he drinks sodas, sodas is very bad for bones, its why his bones are not as dense Soda destroys Calcium I heard. A lot of black guys love soda, remember that Basketball player who snapped his leg with the bone coming out? he was known to drink a lot of g**** soda.

Also look at Tim Bradley he has no power because I believe he doesn;t eat red meat, that red meat helps with testosterone in the body, test equals more power and strength in males. Bradley is vegan for 3 to 4 months before a fight, and year round he eats meat but only once or twice a month or something like that.

Bernard Hopkins doesn't touch soda or candies, and he has strong bones you can tell. Also Pacquiao doesnt drink any soda at all and the guy has strong bones has never broke his hands at all.

Floyd loves orange soda, kool aid, ramen noodles, doritos, taco bell, candy, cheez wiz, etc. That is not good for you at all. Its why he was always getting injured on his hands.

[radioraheem]

I think Floyd ruined his power because of the way he trains on the punching bag. He trains like if his arms are running a marathon instead of loading for explosive power. He also does patty cake mitt sessions.

When you hit that heavybag every single day for 2 hours and just throw arm punches, you are sacrificing the power, you are just building marathoner endurance this is for shoulder muscle endurance so your arms stay up and don't get tired, but Floyd doesn't need that, he fights with one arm down anyway and he has limited punch output.

He is sacrificing power big time, i think if he follows Ariza's training he will have power again. He needs to stop focusing on shoulder endurance and focus on explosive punching. this is what I never understood with Floyd he doesn't throw many punches anyway yet he throws over 1000 on the bag and most of it is arm punches, in a fight he is like a sniper and throws one shot at a time, he would benefit more from explosive power punching training than he would doing 2 hours a day of patty cake and arm punching, for a sniper puncher like Floyd you need to get respect, Maidana didnt respect his power at all, if Floyd developed power and threw those laser sharp right hands he would be able to hurt guys or mark them up if you are a pot shotter you should focus on POWER make those limited times you throw count.

I think his mitt sessions are good for him, especially for reflexes. I wouldn't say that has hurt his punching power. But maybe the heavy bag work, your point stands. I do think though that with Floyd's conditioning and work ethic, he should have more power and be getting more stoppages.

And you do have a point that because he doesn't throw many many punches in a round, he should have a lot of power behind the punches he does throw. Because he does have more of a sniper approach to his fighting, and he's gotten more and more sniper like as he's gotten older. He's more about accuracy.

We'll see what he does with Ariza. He has only 2 more fights and I think these next two are his most important ones to watch over physically.