Either Alex Ariza is the man or knows something we don't know

[KaL-EL]

I dont get how ppl talk down on Ariza just cause he jumps from stable to stable. I mean he needs to work.

Thats like a Apple employee getting fired and working for Samsung or a Xbox employee going to work for Sony Playstation

[radioraheem]

I stopped drink dark sodas especially coca cola and pepsi not good for you overall

That second video with the sludge is crazy.

[hectari]

Ahhh cool, so that was her. Interesting.

Yeah, I remember reading Memo saying that PEDs alone doesn't help. That it's like a symphony. You had to work incredibly hard and train properly, doing the right things. Then that's when the PEDs make the difference doing it's magic.

Soda, because of the high sugar content, ****s up the teeth amongst other things. I know that much. I never heard of it degrading the bones though. That's interesting. It's not that a lot of black guys love soda. A lot of people love soda period. It's easily the number one drink in America, more than water, beer, etc. And it's easily the most marketed drink. Even though it's terrible for the health.

You may have a point about Bradley as well. Bradley does go vegan, which I have no idea why. To me, that's an extreme diet. And not one that benefits a fighter. I think some of the junk food and whatnot has aged Floyd's facial features faster too.

Floyd has to be careful what he eats, both his uncles have diabetes they love sugars and fast food, they think cause they are skinny and have fast metablosim that they are healthy that is a misconception.

[hectari]

I never seen his urine, haha.

But from personal experience, when I used to drink sodas and random juices from the stores, my urine was much darker. But when I switched to drinking like 95% water, my urine is waaaay more clean, clear, and way less smelly. My face is clearer as well.

Eliminate Soda and processed foods and sugars, the first few weeks you will go through withdrawals, you will be agitated because the cravings are strong, its like a drug, if you pass that stage its clearn sailing. What happens when you start eating healthy and clean is y our mind changes, you lose angry, paranoia, bitterness, things like that.

I did this when my ex cheated on me I hate all women and believed women were evil and always say they are doing things, i one day decided to eat clean and work out, I lost my gut, my skin improved and my libido and mindset became happy, i lost the paranoid anger thoughts and started thinking more rational.

It is weird that is why I think the food industry is drugging us, the stuff you eat at fast food joints and processed is bad for you, the chemicals and crap is not good, a lot of people in the hood are angry, but they eat fast food like nobody else and suffer from obesity because fast food and junk food is cheap. I live by the saying you are what you eat, if you put junk in your system your mind becomes junk and you get grumpy.

Its why I been supporting garden growing in the hood, I used to do charity work back in highschool i grew up in Inglewood and Los angeles, too bad when we did introduce a community garden after a few months the people got lazy and stopped working on it and it turned to dry grass and dirt.

Here is an example of a program, to help grow more food in the hood. Sadly many of the people don't help, they are lazy and rather eat fast food and sodas and candy.

http://www.projectfeedthehood.org/

The International District Community Garden is open, and has had hundreds of schoolchildren, volunteers, and families from the Southeast Heights neighborhood working in the garden and taking home fresh vegetables. Project Feed the Hood started a community garden in this area because of its low availability to nutritious, local, affordable food.

[radioraheem]

Eliminate Soda and processed foods and sugars, the first few weeks you will go through withdrawals, you will be agitated because the cravings are strong, its like a drug, if you pass that stage its clearn sailing. What happens when you start eating healthy and clean is y our mind changes, you lose angry, paranoia, bitterness, things like that.

I did this when my ex cheated on me I hate all women and believed women were evil and always say they are doing things, i one day decided to eat clean and work out, I lost my gut, my skin improved and my libido and mindset became happy, i lost the paranoid anger thoughts and started thinking more rational.

It is weird that is why I think the food industry is drugging us, the stuff you eat at fast food joints and processed is bad for you, the chemicals and crap is not good, a lot of people in the hood are angry, but they eat fast food like nobody else and suffer from obesity because fast food and junk food is cheap. I live by the saying you are what you eat, if you put junk in your system your mind becomes junk and you get grumpy.

Its why I been supporting garden growing in the hood, I used to do charity work back in highschool i grew up in Inglewood and Los angeles, too bad when we did introduce a community garden after a few months the people got lazy and stopped working on it and it turned to dry grass and dirt.

Here is an example of a program, to help grow more food in the hood. Sadly many of the people don't help, they are lazy and rather eat fast food and sodas and candy.

http://www.projectfeedthehood.org/

The International District Community Garden is open, and has had hundreds of schoolchildren, volunteers, and families from the Southeast Heights neighborhood working in the garden and taking home fresh vegetables. Project Feed the Hood started a community garden in this area because of its low availability to nutritious, local, affordable food.

Yeah, I've eliminated processed foods, drinks, and sugars already. Feel much better and have more energy. It was a gradual process. I think I first got rid of the processed foods. Then later made the switch to drinking pretty much only water. And then finally cut down all any sugary stuff. I never used to pay attention to the back of packages and whatnot. But I know a guy who is a pharmacist and he educated me a bit on just how much sugar and whatnot goes into things. When he showed me, I was amazed.

And yes, I do agree there's a relationship between the food we eat, our bodies and even our behavior. It's hard to get people into gardening as adults though. I think it's more effective getting little kids into it, so as they grow older they have much more of an appreciation to it. Also their childhood memories get tied to it too.

Going to check that link now. Thanks.

[gee73]

I really hope Floyd takes up Ariza on his trial offer, I think Ariza said he will train floyd for a few weeks and if Floyd doesn't like what he sees he doesn't have to pay him at all.

I don't think that Floyd will use Ariza like the other fighters. Floyd senior won't let him work like that.

Roach personally disliked Ariza. So he eventually forced Pacquaio to get rid of him. He tried to get rid of him for Pacquaio vs. Marquez 4, but Pacquaio really supported Ariza. After the KO loss though, Pacquaio finally gave in to Roach's command to release Ariza.

Khan got rid of Ariza because of how Ariza left him during training camp for his then upcoming rematch against Peterson. Khan felt it was unprofessional and just wrong. Ariza left both Pacquaio and Khan in the Philippines to help train Chavez Jr for his fight. Pacquaio was cool with it, but Khan wasn't. And Khan ended up getting a replacement.

Maidana... that right there is an enigma because Maidana went on record saying that he liked Ariza and felt he did a great job. Maidana wasn't in approval of firing him. But if that's what Garcia wanted, he was going to roll with it. It's just that no one really knows what went on between Ariza and Garcia.

The funny thing about the whole situation is, that Roach hired Ariza. At the end Roach disliked the attention Ariza got and that Ariza said Pacquiao has to work harder, like he did coming up.

As far as I know Freddie wasn't ok with Ariza leaving and Khan was hiring Ruben Tabares even before cause he worked with him in the UK.

The problem with the Garcia camp was, that Ariza wanted to train them more, thought that his work would be more important and he didn't respected Garcia's schedule.
Plus he always had his own opinion about the next moves of a fighter. He wanted to move Mikey up to 135 etc.
To be honest about the results of Ariza in the Garcia camp: Maidana and Dulorme performed better, Rios and Mikey not. That's why he is not with Garcia anymore.

... he is actually quite clueless when it comes to chemical compounds, even i know that stuff he gave Rios is banned, Ariza gave Diego Corrales and Morales some type of over the counter bodybuilding supplement that effected their liver and made them sluggish so he got fired.

When he got with Teri tom is when he started improving, she basically does all the scientific work for him, her plyoworkouts she developed from her years studying jeet kune do and bruce lee philosophy of explosive training for power and speed. she basically showed that too this something that most people don't know because she basically keeps a low profile and avoids any spotlight and lets Ariza take all the glory. Ariza is a good messenger and follows her instructions, she can't do the work herself so Ariza does it he lives and trains with the fighters.

That stuff he gave Rios was to keep him awake, its not something that will get you muscular over night it will get you amped though, i said it before the reason Rios looked bad in the Pac fight was he wasn't used to the time of the fight early morning schedule.

As far as I know Morales disliked Ariza's training routine. Over the counter bodybuilding supplements are quite common in all sports where you want to lose fat (and water). Some ingridients are not banned, but can harm your body quite bad if you are doing cardio workouts.
Ariza's problem in the Corrales camp was because of Miguel Diaz, they had some issues.

Personally I think that Ariza is not responsible for Rios' positive test. Rios was tested twice after the fight, only the VADA one was positive. And DMMA is the drug with the most positive tests in sports (about 2000/yr) which is why the CPBO most likely tested for it. There is something behind that story...

Plyoworkouts are great but not for boxing. One goal of Plyoworkouts is to minimize the energy needed for exercises. That's something which doesn't go along with training fighters to lose weight and be explosive.

I know a good few guys who are in that business and it seems to be extremely competitive. It must be tough to stand out from the crowd and get the big gigs. Luck seems to play a big part, although I'm sure hustle counts for a lot too.

Since more and more people have gone into this business since the internet and with it better marketing came up the prices dropped. Hustle is a big part of the business like in every other job where you are hired for a certain period of time. Without that hustle one gets replaced really quick.

Memo did wonders for Marquez. But I'm still su****ious because Marquez has freakish power now. I don't believe he can get so powerful naturally like that to the point of KO'ing guys unconscious.

Well, everyone sees it as a wonder. But it can be done naturally. If you consider the shape Marquez had before hiring Memo (without having a physical coach at that time), it's not a that big surprise.
Memo's training helped Marquez explosiveness. In addition to that he worked Marquez' legs more which is important due to a increased release of human hormones which help to build muscles and recovery. He also trained his back and shoulders, to generate more force and get more momentum when punching. Another part is nutrition, maybe with blood analysis to optimize his intake vitamins, minerals and proteins.

And you do have a point that because he doesn't throw many many punches in a round, he should have a lot of power behind the punches he does throw. Because he does have more of a sniper approach to his fighting, and he's gotten more and more sniper like as he's gotten older. He's more about accuracy.

Power of punches has little to do with the output. Floyd could punch harder but therefore he would need to change something with his technique and his approch. If he wanted to land harder he won't be able to hit his opponent and move away as soon as he landed. It's all about hit and not getting hit for him.

Ariza though the proof is in the pudding like Floyd said when Khan, Pacquiao and Maidana were with Ariza they were beasts. Maidana destroyed Broner with grazing power shots too, and in the first fight with Floyd he looked way better.



Also look at Tim Bradley he has no power because I believe he doesn;t eat red meat, that red meat helps with testosterone in the body, test equals more power and strength in males.

Ariza had success because he is with the fighters all day and he is pushing them in training. Many fighters have a habit of not pushing themselves, during their training camp and their off-season.


Bradley doesn't have power because of his technique and because of his small legs (take a look at his calves) and smaller back. He generates less power downstairs and does not have the momentum to add it upstairs. Also his technique is not made for punching. When he tried to going for broke and pushed his whole bodyweight into a punch, he rocked Pacquiao. But only then.
Red meat helps to geneate testosterone, but is also an issue for digestion.

I dont get how ppl talk down on Ariza just cause he jumps from stable to stable. I mean he needs to work.

Thats like a Apple employee getting fired and working for Samsung or a Xbox employee going to work for Sony Playstation

Right. The money is not that great for the expenses someone has in that business.

Soda, because of the high sugar content, ****s up the teeth amongst other things. I know that much. I never heard of it degrading the bones though. That's interesting. It's not that a lot of black guys love soda. A lot of people love soda period. It's easily the number one drink in America, more than water, beer, etc. And it's easily the most marketed drink. Even though it's terrible for the health.

You may have a point about Bradley as well. Bradley does go vegan, which I have no idea why. To me, that's an extreme diet. And not one that benefits a fighter. I think some of the junk food and whatnot has aged Floyd's facial features faster too.

Forget about the sugar first. The acid is bad. Acid needs to be neutralized. To do this you need minerals. If your intake is not properly, you body will compensate it through minerals of your bones. This will also effect your thyroid. Less minerals and other substances iodine will result in a less thyroxine, a hormon which controls your metabolism. Then the sugar won't be burned as much as it should and people get fat.
The problems of sugar to the teeth is due to the acid production of bacteria in our mouth. Same effect like acid in soda.

Bradley goes vegan because it helps his body burn fat faster. To digest non natural protein the human body needs more energy than for natural protein. Non-natural protein has some negative effects to recovery and to the metabolism. Another reason is that with a vegan diet you don't have a animal-hormone intake therough meat and milk. It's not good for athletes (unless you are a bodybuilder, but they often got serious problems because of their meat eating and milk-protein intake habits) because it can influence the intestines. This can cause diarrhea and will give problems to generate energy from the nutrients.
It benefits a fighter, but not everyone. I tried it and now cut milk and meat to a minimum. More energy, enhanced endurance for training plus cleaner skin. Also beneficial for liver values.

[radioraheem]

The funny thing about the whole situation is, that Roach hired Ariza. At the end Roach disliked the attention Ariza got and that Ariza said Pacquiao has to work harder, like he did coming up.

As far as I know Freddie wasn't ok with Ariza leaving and Khan was hiring Ruben Tabares even before cause he worked with him in the UK.

The problem with the Garcia camp was, that Ariza wanted to train them more, thought that his work would be more important and he didn't respected Garcia's schedule.
Plus he always had his own opinion about the next moves of a fighter. He wanted to move Mikey up to 135 etc.
To be honest about the results of Ariza in the Garcia camp: Maidana and Dulorme performed better, Rios and Mikey not. That's why he is not with Garcia anymore.

Power of punches has little to do with the output. Floyd could punch harder but therefore he would need to change something with his technique and his approch. If he wanted to land harder he won't be able to hit his opponent and move away as soon as he landed. It's all about hit and not getting hit for him.

Bradley doesn't have power because of his technique and because of his small legs (take a look at his calves) and smaller back. He generates less power downstairs and does not have the momentum to add it upstairs. Also his technique is not made for punching. When he tried to going for broke and pushed his whole bodyweight into a punch, he rocked Pacquiao. But only then. Red meat helps to geneate testosterone, but is also an issue for digestion.

Forget about the sugar first. The acid is bad. Acid needs to be neutralized. To do this you need minerals. If your intake is not properly, you body will compensate it through minerals of your bones. This will also effect your thyroid. Less minerals and other substances iodine will result in a less thyroxine, a hormon which controls your metabolism. Then the sugar won't be burned as much as it should and people get fat.
The problems of sugar to the teeth is due to the acid production of bacteria in our mouth. Same effect like acid in soda.

Bradley goes vegan because it helps his body burn fat faster. To digest non natural protein the human body needs more energy than for natural protein. Non-natural protein has some negative effects to recovery and to the metabolism. Another reason is that with a vegan diet you don't have a animal-hormone intake therough meat and milk. It's not good for athletes (unless you are a bodybuilder, but they often got serious problems because of their meat eating and milk-protein intake habits) because it can influence the intestines. This can cause diarrhea and will give problems to generate energy from the nutrients.
It benefits a fighter, but not everyone. I tried it and now cut milk and meat to a minimum. More energy, enhanced endurance for training plus cleaner skin. Also beneficial for liver values.

First, thanks for all the info.

Roach probably wasn't OK with Ariza leaving. But I know Pacquaio was cool with it. Ariza and Pacquaio had a very good relationship. Ariza was also training Khan at that time. So I'm sure Roach had big issues with that, since it's two fighters. Maybe that trainer from the UK was on board too. But Ariza was definitely training Khan in the Philippines with Pacquaio.

The info about the issues between Ariza and Garcia is interesting. That at least makes some sense than some of the other reasons I've heard.

In regards to soda and acid, and how the body will compensate for it through minerals in the bones is quite interesting too. I've heard milk is not a good thing either, that it's bad for the body and creates a lot of acid. Something along those lines.

[manoamano]

Some of you guys are funny. Look strength and conditioning and nutrition is no secrete. The only thing is Alex and Teri paid their dues in school, and so did memo. A lot of the training methods done by all three are methods done by the Russians back in the sixties and seventies but never really became popular in the states until a little over 10 years ago. And nutrition has advanced in the sense that nutritionist and dietitians have finally discovered how to work with blood levels and use them to their advantage. In conjunction with proper training and recovery you get great results! A lot of boxers don't have punching prower due to poor punching technique and not using the proper body mechanics as well as a poorly developed musculoskeletal system.

If you noticed on the all access the S&CC in the Garcia camp was using a lot of the training exercises that Ariza uses but they were done out of sync which tells you they wanted to use his method of training but don't really know how or when or how long to implement them.

As far as using PEDS or other illegal substances people are just talking out of their Asses cause without concrete evidence it's hard to know who is really doing things right and who's juicing. The bad side of the sport is that once these guys become a good investment people start to protect them and what they do and even the commissions will keep quiet.

Ariza is a knowledgeable guy and should be given respect for what he does until otherwise.

[New England]

The man is one of the best out there.

He's good at what he does, clearly.

which is administer performance enhancing drugs.

[radioraheem]

Some of you guys are funny. Look strength and conditioning and nutrition is no secrete. The only thing is Alex and Teri paid their dues in school, and so did memo. A lot of the training methods done by all three are methods done by the Russians back in the sixties and seventies but never really became popular in the states until a little over 10 years ago. And nutrition has advanced in the sense that nutritionist and dietitians have finally discovered how to work with blood levels and use them to their advantage. In conjunction with proper training and recovery you get great results! A lot of boxers don't have punching prower due to poor punching technique and not using the proper body mechanics as well as a poorly developed musculoskeletal system.

If you noticed on the all access the S&CC in the Garcia camp was using a lot of the training exercises that Ariza uses but they were done out of sync which tells you they wanted to use his method of training but don't really know how or when or how long to implement them.

As far as using PEDS or other illegal substances people are just talking out of their Asses cause without concrete evidence it's hard to know who is really doing things right and who's juicing. The bad side of the sport is that once these guys become a good investment people start to protect them and what they do and even the commissions will keep quiet.

Ariza is a knowledgeable guy and should be given respect for what he does until otherwise.

This is interesting too. You guys are dropping some information today!