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  • The Gambler1981
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    #421
    Originally posted by The Big Dunn
    I business when you reject any part, you reject the offer. there is no line item veto in boxing.

    Again, why base something on speculation when you have a pattern of behavior to analyze. In your everyday life, behavior pattern is much more of an accurate predictor than "uhh I think because I don't like the guy".

    Aww, Floyd called him a name. See ali v frazier 1, or ali v Patterson, or emile Griffithv. (**** I forget) to see what a fighter does when someone calls him bad names.

    when he accepted ALMOST 5 YEARS LATER (you left that out) it was drastically different. why? probably because Manny had just been KTFO by a guy Floyd destroyed. As you are aware the casual public (falsely) uses this to judge if an opponent can beat another guy. The reality is at that point the fight likely wasn't a 3 mil ppv seller as it was expected to be at its height.

    Similar demand made from TR to JMM and Shane-didn't prevent either fight.

    The use of the word ***** may give you credibility amongst the very worst fans here on NSB-but it makes you look like a child who is mad the discussion isn't going the way they want it. Same with the God worship stuff.

    The fact is Manny turned the fight down twice. That is what you would focus on in any other situation.
    Isn't that Griffith-Paret 3 that Paret called him maricon, then Paret got beat to death in the fight.

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    • Beater_of_ass
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      #422
      Originally posted by The Big Dunn
      when he got the offer with less money-he said no. SO clearly he didn't really mean it when he said it. More speculation about what might happen if something may have happened. enough of this already. can we deal in facts, please?

      Floyd not giving manny what he wants to make the fight is not a roadblock Beater. Manny's ego is the roadblock.

      Someone explain why Manny can't Floyd unless he gets exactly what he wants?
      There's a difference between 45% to 55% and just a flat fee of 40 million. Let's say Pac would have made less than $40 million at 45% (which he wouldn't) but let's go with it. He still asked for a percentage not a flat fee, you guys complain if you get hustled but when your involved in the hustle you turn a blind eye. So... if you really can't see a difference between a flat fee and a smaller piece of a percentage you're a real full fledged dumbass.

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      • The Big Dunn
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        #423
        Originally posted by The Gambler1981
        Isn't that Griffith-Paret 3 that Paret called him maricon, then Paret got beat to death in the fight.
        thanks Gambler. The point is-being called a gorilla or a fa&&ot or worse, being called a name that is no longer yours got those guys running their mouth an ass whipping. Apparently being called a cheater is a justification for refusing to fight.

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        • PAC-BOY
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          #424
          Originally posted by The Big Dunn
          Yes. why do you think they are not?
          So you think Manny should break his contract with HBO...
          Break his contract with Top Rank...
          Just to fight Floyd under HIS rules?

          This is reasonable to you? Yes or No?

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            #425
            Originally posted by Beater_of_ass
            Floyd has no control over what channel he fights on. He is obligated to fight on Showtime because of a contract if they wanted to put it on HBO they could.
            It would be just like when Tyson Fought Lewis. Both networks would come together so long as they can come to terms which looks like have. Did you not see how Jim Gray ( A showtime guy) was pushing for a Floyd/Paquiao fight? Why would showtime clamor for a fight with another fighter who's contracted to fight solely on HBO?

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            • The Big Dunn
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              #426
              Originally posted by Beater_of_ass
              There's a difference between 45% to 55% and just a flat fee of 40 million. Let's say Pac would have made less than $40 million at 45% (which he wouldn't) but let's go with it. He still asked for a percentage not a flat fee, you guys complain if you get hustled but when your involved in the hustle you turn a blind eye. So... if you really can't see a difference between a flat fee and a smaller piece of a percentage you're a real full fledged dumbass.
              we agree there is a difference. but manny refused that offer dude. this isn't about hustling or nor name calling or spin doctoring.

              why does manny have to get what he wants in order to fight Floyd? can you just answer that.

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              • The Big Dunn
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                #427
                Originally posted by PAC-BOY
                So you think Manny should break his contract with HBO...
                Break his contract with Top Rank...
                Just to fight Floyd under HIS rules?

                This is reasonable to you? Yes or No?
                I answered your question-please answer mine.

                I don't give a flying **** what manny has to do since he refused the first fight. I've been clear about that for a while.

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                  #428
                  Originally posted by IMDAZED
                  I wanna know what's wrong with TMT/GBP heading promotions. Someone explain.

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                  • PAC-BOY
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                    #429
                    Originally posted by IMDAZED
                    I wanna know what's wrong with TMT/GBP heading promotions. Someone explain.
                    All i wanna know is ...
                    " If wasnt for the Fans None of this would be possible" Says Floyd.
                    "I fight for the Fans"...Says Floyd.
                    "I wanna put on a show the fans would enjoy"...says Floyd

                    So the fans wanna see this fight more than any horseshlt fight floyd can muster up. So why make insane demands? make it happen Floyd.

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                    • balintawak
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                      #430
                      That's the key to negotiations - reasonability. If Manny was to give up all that, what would he be compensated for in return? The problem is that we don't hear any offers that tries to entice Pac. All we hear is demand after demand. This is a sign that the intent is not real.

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