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  • Beater_of_ass
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    #431
    Originally posted by The Big Dunn
    we agree there is a difference. but manny refused that offer dude. this isn't about hustling or nor name calling or spin doctoring.

    why does manny have to get what he wants in order to fight Floyd? can you just answer that.
    Yes, Manny refused that offer because it was bull****. It's as simple as that, Floyd doesn't get credit for giving to charity if all he gives is 25 cents. You don't get credit for "trying to make the fight" by giving Manny literally 20% of what that fight would make. That's to make his nut huggers make ****** posts such as your own as a means to defend it. That, or you're too dumb to realize that Manny isn't as dumb as Floyd because he can not only read english, he knows when he is a getting a bad deal. He doesn't go about flaunting about it like Floyd but Manny is all about that paper, he wants to get paid too.

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    • PAC-BOY
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      #432
      Originally posted by The Big Dunn
      I answered your question-please answer mine.

      I don't give a flying **** what manny has to do since he refused the first fight. I've been clear about that for a while.
      Im trying to answer your question...i wanna make sure we are on the same page...So you think Manny should break his contract with HBO...
      Break his contract with Top Rank...
      Just to fight Floyd under HIS rules?

      This is reasonable to you? Yes or No?

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        #433
        These *****s are worse than 8 year old girls worshipping justin beeber
        There is one guy who keeps moving the goalposts. It isn't Pacquiao

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          #434
          Originally posted by balintawak
          That's the key to negotiations - reasonability. If Manny was to give up all that, what would he be compensated for in return? The problem is that we don't hear any offers that tries to entice Pac. All we hear is demand after demand. This is a sign that the intent is not real.
          uh-he had a 50/50 offer which was turned down. So now he has to be enticed to fight.

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          • The Gambler1981
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            #435
            Originally posted by The Big Dunn
            thanks Gambler. The point is-being called a gorilla or a fa&&ot or worse, being called a name that is no longer yours got those guys running their mouth an ass whipping. Apparently being called a cheater is a justification for refusing to fight.
            That fight is the cautionary tale of running your mouth, because if you run your mouth to the wrong guy and you find yourself in need of mercy you may just not get it paying the ultimate price when that guy would otherwise grant you mercy.

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            • The Big Dunn
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              #436
              Originally posted by Beater_of_ass
              Yes, Manny refused that offer because it was bull****. It's as simple as that, Floyd doesn't get credit for giving to charity if all he gives is 25 cents. You don't get credit for "trying to make the fight" by giving Manny literally 20% of what that fight would make. That's to make his nut huggers make ****** posts such as your own as a means to defend it. That, or you're too dumb to realize that Manny isn't as dumb as Floyd because he can not only read english, he knows when he is a getting a bad deal. He doesn't go about flaunting about it like Floyd but Manny is all about that paper, he wants to get paid too.
              You finally got around to it in the last line-Manny is about the paper too. That's why he turned down the 1st offer-he wanted more. That's why he turned down the 2nd offer-he wanted more. How come you and others can't just post this?

              All the other stuff you wrote is just fluff and cover. its not abut what any Floyd fan thinks. It s not about getting credit. Its only about one thing-accepting an offer to fight even though you aren't getting what you want.

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              • Beater_of_ass
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                #437
                Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                I answered your question-please answer mine.

                I don't give a flying **** what manny has to do since he refused the first fight. I've been clear about that for a while.
                So why are you mad at Manny? He's coming to Floyd asking for the fight and said I messed up let's do testing, I'll take less money and any weight or date you want. Why can't Floyd take the fact that Manny will take less money as more than fair? Seriously bringing up his promoter that's all Floyd has left, only because he ran away from HBO knowing they were going to make that fight happen. Now, even his daddies at Showtime are pushing for that fight and Floyd has run out of options. Floyd isn't as smart as CBS lawyers, if Showtime has lost money (which they have) Floyd has a contractual obligation to maximize profits flat out ducking Manny would I promise you void that contract.

                Think Andre Ward saying Goosen doesn't get him fights while refusing to fight Kessler or really outside of Oakland at all. Courts recognize when a client (Floyd in this case) make it impossible to appease them. Another example an interior decorator who can't make their client happy even after redoing a room 3 or 4 times or even more. Don't think for a second CBS signed Floyd and said fight you who want, he probably can under the circumstance that he better make money, if he doesn't they can do what they want. Floyd isn't his own boss, someone else signs his checks.

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                • Deevel916
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                  #438
                  Where does this notion that Pac "refused" the first fight keep coming from? It came down to a cutoff date for testing that both fighters couldnt come to terms on therefore the fight was scrapped. It had nothing to do with Pac turning down 50/50. Floyd wanted the cutoff date to be a x number of days while Pac wanted x number of days. During the next round of negotiations Pac gave in to what Floyd's cutoff demand was only for Floyd to say that now there's NO cutoff date. Notice how everytime Pac makes consessions, Floyd then moves the goalpost?

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                  • The Big Dunn
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                    #439
                    Originally posted by PAC-BOY
                    Im trying to answer your question...i wanna make sure we are on the same page...So you think Manny should break his contract with HBO...
                    Break his contract with Top Rank...
                    Just to fight Floyd under HIS rules?

                    This is reasonable to you? Yes or No?
                    Just answer my question please, as I did yours. we don't need anything else but courtesy in answering each others questions.

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                    • jg77
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                      #440
                      Lol, you guys have spent years arguing about who offered this.....who refused this.

                      Let's just hope the fight happens now since they're both nearing the end of their careers on top.

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