Comments Thread For: Ruslan Chagaev-Luis Ortiz To Get Ordered on Monday

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  • bigjavi973
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    #21
    Originally posted by E. O. Wilson
    I'm looking forward to this one.I want heavyweights to start fighting each other again, I'm very bored of the "Wladimir lottery" where the next millionaire loser is selected.


    People are whining so much about Pac-Algieiri why do they want to see Mayweather-Thurman? That's an even larger gap in resumes.
    Its not thurman's fault everyone ducking him. Oh wait... it is his fault. They are scared of being one timed.

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    • Black Barty
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      #22
      Originally posted by bigjavi973
      Klitschko will again get another "injury" to postpone a fight if luis ortiz is his mandatory.
      No. Wlad will be more than happy to fight Ortiz next year in an eliminator for one of Pulev's belts.

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      • Foreign Soil
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        #23
        Ortiz is nothing special. If Chagaev shows up 50% of what he used to be, he should still be the favorite.

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        • joe strong
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          #24
          these interim & regular belts are a joke but it is getting 2 contenders in the ring fighting each other. chagaev hasn't beaten a top HW since he beat john ruiz. valuev, drumond, pudor, oquendo, Meehan, skelton are not top HWs. valuev was decent but he wasn't matched up against top opposition throughout his career. from what I see from Ortiz he should beat chagaev fairly easily at this point. I have always thought chagaev was a tad overrated. a gatekeeper at best. wladimir, ruiz & povetkin are the only 3 top HWs he has fought in his career. he is 1-2 in those fights. he was matched very carefully from the day he turned pro.

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          • BostonGuy
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            #25
            Originally posted by Foreign Soil
            Ortiz is nothing special. If Chagaev shows up 50% of what he used to be, he should still be the favorite.
            Ortiz is a solid fighter. He dispatched Kayode with ease the other night, something I doubt Chagaev could do.

            I like the prosect of Ortiz vs Chagaev - both guys are skilled and both are southpaws. Ortiz has much more power and has a pretty good size advantage as well

            From what I've seen from Ortiz he KOs Chagaev within 5 rounds

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            • New England
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              #26
              Originally posted by BostonGuy
              Ortiz is a solid fighter. He dispatched Kayode with ease the other night, something I doubt Chagaev could do.

              I like the prosect of Ortiz vs Chagaev - both guys are skilled and both are southpaws. Ortiz has much more power and has a pretty good size advantage as well

              From what I've seen from Ortiz he KOs Chagaev within 5 rounds


              styles make fights. chagaev is not a big puncher, or even very aggressive.


              he'd stop kayode. taking longer to stop kayode than ruiz, a guy who was aggressive, very big, and a more natural puncher, doesn't mean he is worse.

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              • Foreign Soil
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                #27
                Originally posted by BostonGuy
                Ortiz is a solid fighter. He dispatched Kayode with ease the other night, something I doubt Chagaev could do.

                I like the prosect of Ortiz vs Chagaev - both guys are skilled and both are southpaws. Ortiz has much more power and has a pretty good size advantage as well

                From what I've seen from Ortiz he KOs Chagaev within 5 rounds
                Doesn't matter how one performs against a certain opponent in comparison, and it was a quick stoppage anyhow. Chagaev could've gotten similar results with that ref.

                Ortiz is ok, but as I said, he's nothing special. He's got a lot of work to do if he's going to continue to KO opponents like people think, even this old version of Chagaev.

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                • BostonGuy
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by New England
                  styles make fights. chagaev is not a big puncher, or even very aggressive.


                  he'd stop kayode. taking longer to stop kayode than ruiz, a guy who was aggressive, very big, and a more natural puncher, doesn't mean he is worse.
                  Originally posted by Foreign Soil
                  Doesn't matter how one performs against a certain opponent in comparison, and it was a quick stoppage anyhow. Chagaev could've gotten similar results with that ref.

                  Ortiz is ok, but as I said, he's nothing special. He's got a lot of work to do if he's going to continue to KO opponents like people think, even this old version of Chagaev.
                  It's a legitimate comparison. Frankly Chagaev sucks and I don't see him stopping Kayode. He's a pillow puncher whose work rate sucks and I can't remember the last time he scored a KO.

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                  • Foreign Soil
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by BostonGuy
                    It's a legitimate comparison. Frankly Chagaev sucks and I don't see him stopping Kayode. He's a pillow puncher whose work rate sucks and I can't remember the last time he scored a KO.
                    Kayode has been hurt against weak punchers in the past. It's really nothing to measure a fighter by, especially when the stoppage was so premature. Ortiz didn't have a chance to show much of anything. Chagaev has never been great but he's had a respectable career that Ortiz has a long way to go to match.

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                    • BendOver
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Hougigo
                      The real question though is what happens afterwards. As soon as Klitbro absorbed Povetkin.... they had a vacant WBA regular title... these guys will never stop churning them out. There was no need for an interim or a regular title holder
                      We know the real deal so I really don't care anymore

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