Roman Gonzalez should be ahead of Rigo P4P

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  • crold1
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    #31
    Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
    Floyd Mayweather, Guillermo Rigondeaux, Andre Ward, Manny Pacquiao, Wladimir Klitschko, Juan Manuel Marquez?
    LOL at Wlad being better than Roman.

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    I can see a resume argument for Marquez or Pacquiao but Roman is every bit as good as them in ring and in his prime. I'd say he's better in the moment.

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      #32
      Originally posted by crold1
      LOL at Wlad being better than Roman.

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      I can see a resume argument for Marquez or Pacquiao but Roman is every bit as good as them in ring and in his prime. I'd say he's better in the moment.
      Why is Gonzalez better than Wladimir? Go on, sell me

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        #33
        Ummm...if you just blindly look at a sheet of paper with Ws and L's and rankings then maybe.

        But p4p is about if everybody was the same size, who would win. Resume is to be used as a measuring stick to see how a fighter would perform against different styles but its not everything.

        Danny Garcia has as good of a resume as anybody but I don't think he would beat anybody top 10 p4p in a hypothetical matchup.

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        • crold1
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          #34
          Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
          Why is Gonzalez better than Wladimir? Go on, sell me
          Can fight from outside behind the jab with a monster right and is as skilled inside as anyone in the game. Wlad has zero inside game. Better chin. Better opp overall and that is with Roman being avoided like cancer. Wlad is a great Heavyweight.

          Roman is a great fighter.

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            #35
            Originally posted by PBP
            Ummm...if you just blindly look at a sheet of paper with Ws and L's and rankings then maybe.

            But p4p is about if everybody was the same size, who would win. Resume is to be used as a measuring stick to see how a fighter would perform against different styles but its not everything.

            Danny Garcia has as good of a resume as anybody but I don't think he would beat anybody top 10 p4p in a hypothetical matchup.
            Both are important. Zab Judah looked sensational at times when he was younger but then completely bottled it when the lights were on him against top fighters.

            Danny looks distinctly average half the time but has pulled out wins where he was not expected to.

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            • crold1
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              #36
              Originally posted by PBP
              Ummm...if you just blindly look at a sheet of paper with Ws and L's and rankings then maybe.

              But p4p is about if everybody was the same size, who would win. Resume is to be used as a measuring stick to see how a fighter would perform against different styles but its not everything.

              Danny Garcia has as good of a resume as anybody but I don't think he would beat anybody top 10 p4p in a hypothetical matchup.
              If everyone was the same size, the only guys who would IMO have a chance to beat roman are Floyd, Rigo, and Ward and he'd be right there with any of them.

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                #37
                Originally posted by crold1
                Can fight from outside behind the jab with a monster right and is as skilled inside as anyone in the game. Wlad has zero inside game. Better chin. Better opp overall and that is with Roman being avoided like cancer. Wlad is a great Heavyweight.

                Roman is a great fighter.
                Who has he beaten?

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                • M Bison
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by crold1
                  If everyone was the same size, the only guys who would IMO have a chance to beat roman are Floyd, Rigo, and Ward and he'd be right there with any of them.
                  In your opinion.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
                    Floyd Mayweather, Guillermo Rigondeaux, Andre Ward, Manny Pacquiao, Wladimir Klitschko, Juan Manuel Marquez?
                    No way is Wlad better, and it's highly debatable Pacquiao or Marquez are anymore. Rigo is a debate as well, hence this thread.

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                    • crold1
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
                      Who has he beaten?
                      Niida, Estrada, Yaegashi, and Takayama are all comparable with the bulk of Wlad's resume. Rodriguez, now unified at 105, is right there.

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