Ortiz looks very sloppy and his KO percentage is misleading. People who Boxrec probably think he's a KO machine, but he actually just overwhelms his opponents with sloppy, wide punches. He gets hit a lot, his defense is not one of his strengths. Matthysse will catch this guy from what I see the way he throws. Matthysse throws straight, accurate punches. This guy is a wild man. I am more intrigued by Broner-Taylor and have been since it was signed.
[POLL] Better Match - Broner vs. Taylor or Matthysse vs. Ortiz?
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Carlos > JohnComment
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No, I said Taylor isn't as good because he has lost every decent fight he's had. We know what he is. We don't know what Ortiz is., but he looks good and hasn't lost.
Big difference dumbass. And were comparing Ortiz and Taylor. Not the two Molina's.
Quit trying to manufacture arguments because you lost. LMAO. 60%+.
It's not even close. I'm done discussing this.Comment
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Just quit already. When you have to resort to twisting what people say and manufacturing arguments, you know you have lost.
Ive seen both guys on tape, you admittedly have not. So basically you should just stfu. You aren't reliable.Comment
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You are literally the only one I have seen say he doesnt look like a solid opponent. Everyone else who has watched his tape has said the opposite of you. We all have opinions, but lets not pretend are sole opinion that no one agrees with is fact.
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Looks good against who? The first clip I watched of him, he got dropped like a sack of **** and was badly hurt against some postman in Mexico.
I'd take your word if I trusted your expertise in the area. Have you guys even seen Ortiz fight?
When Freedom2014 told me that Russian men had the biggest ****s, I believed her because I knew she had seen a lot of them up close. Can you say the same about Ortiz fights?Last edited by Dirk Diggler UK; 09-03-2014, 02:18 PM.Comment
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You are literally the only one I have seen say he doesnt look like a solid opponent. Everyone else who has watched his tape has said the opposite of you. We all have opinions, but lets not pretend are sole opinion that no one agrees with is fact.
Alright, got it? Thanks.
I would be insulted the day that I actually start agreeing with some of the dumbest people I've never met, in my life. AKA NSB.Comment
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So I have an opposite opinion from members on a site where most people feel Rios beats Mayweather, Golovkin KO's Froch and Kessler(but is too small for 168), and every close fight is a robbery?
I would be insulted the day that I actually start agreeing with some of the dumbest people I've never met, in my life. AKA NSB.Comment
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Looks good against who? The first clip I watched of him, he got dropped like a sack of **** and was badly hurt against some postman in mexico.
I'd take your word if I trusted your expertise in the area. Have you guys even seen Ortiz fight?
When Freedom2014 told me that Russian men had the biggest ****s, I believed her because I knew she has seen a lot of them up close.
Lozada is and was a good prospect. He's still young.Comment
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So I have an opposite opinion from members on a site where most people feel Rios beats Mayweather, Golovkin KO's Froch and Kessler(but is too small for 168), and every close fight is a robbery?
I would be insulted the day that I actually start agreeing with some of the dumbest people I've never met, in my life. AKA NSB.
You are not superior to everyone here.Comment
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