Comments Thread For: Danny Garcia Reacts To Backlash of Rod Salka Fight

[RoelOnyot]

The Laws of the State of New York Were Violated in the Garcia-Salka Bout

The issue is not what is your opinion or what is my opinion or what is the opinion of the rest of the public. The issue is what is the law on the matter. The fact is that the laws of New York specifically provide that any person, including any corporation and the officers thereof, any physician, referee, judge, timekeeper, boxer, manager, trainer or second, who shall promote, conduct, give or participate in any sham or collusive boxing or sparring match or exhibition, shall be deprived of his license by the commission; and that no licensed promoting corporation or matchmaker shall knowingly engage in a course of conduct in which fights are arranged where one boxer has skills or experience significantly in excess of the other boxer so that a mismatch results with the potential of physical harm to the boxer. While the Garcia-Salka bout may not have been collusive, the same was, for all legal intents and purposes, a sham. The Garcia-Salka bout was legally a sham. At the same time, it is one wherein the skills or experience of one fighter, that is Garcia, was significantly in excess of the other, that is Salka, and that a mismatch resulted with the potential of physical harm to Salka. For this reason, all the persons who promoted, conducted or participated therein, including Garcia and Salka, are all liable under the laws of the State of New York. This is therefore not a matter of public opinion but a matter of law which must be looked into by the Attorney General of New York for possible civil and criminal action against all those responsible for the Garcia-Salka bout including Garcia and Salka themselves. So that bouts of the Garcia-Salka kind may not happen again, it is suggested that time be taken by all those interested to reform the sport of boxing to communicate with the Attorney General of the State of New York asking him to take civil and criminal actions against all those responsible for holding the Garcia-Salka bout based upon the boxing laws of the State of New York

[-Kev-]

Judah ain't ****. Did he even try against danny? And herrera soned danny wtf u talkin about "patna" haha

And still beat Matthysse.

[manoamano]

But these guys think they're above law!
I say they should be investigated!

[ImADime]

I have to mostly agree with Danny that they only really have 10-15 years in this sport and I'm sure that is the same thing Haymon tells his fighters. Boxers need to make enough money to support themselves and their families for the rest of their lives. If they don't they will end up fighting way past their expiration date just like some of the other fighters we see staying in the game too long. If they only fight the best, like we the fans want, most of them will eventually lose and their earning potential will decrease.

With that said I think Salka was too large of a mismatch. He should have at least fought a tomato can in his weight class.

[batista84]

If you work "on the TV business" when was the last time a network reached out to fans to decide what to show?

They Always do it under the table, listen, I'm not gonna go deeper in there because I'd have to explain a ton on you, there's literally a ton of people investing and paying on these things, but the thing squished goes like this.

TV Network decides to put on a show, let's say to get easy understanding here, they put on a boxing show.They present the estimated final product to the Sponsors, Sponsors are paying to TV Network that specific portion of the show to display their propaganda. Sponsors ask the "Boxing Show Head Director of that TV Network" how much people are expected to view that show. TV Network goes to the analysts and the specific people who are gonna give 2 estimate numbers, one the lower limit of that estimate and the other the upper, it's like an equation.

TV Networks are expected to deliver to the sponsor the magic number between those 2, if TV Network doesn't get to the minium they are on a negative balance, and they gotta pay a fee to the sponsor, if that kind of behavior talking about statistics keeps going on and on, Sponsor will not pay more to help that show. Of course by logic you know what will happen if that magic number surpasses the upper limit. Everyone will be happy.

So what happens here? first and foremost, TV will never get short on sponsors, there will be always one sponsor, the problem here is that when you start leaning to low budget and small enterprises, you will get less money than if you are sponsored by let's say a "Beer Worldwide Company", that culminates on lower numbers wich equals to = Low ranked boxers who doesn't expect to get paid more than $20,000 = Poor Boxing Shows.

So the "Disasterous thing here folks" is that Garcia vs Salka wasn't expected to be a high rated show, but what happened? an estimated of 800,000 - 850,000 view that show.

Now what does this mean to the people involved here? It means that after the show Haymon, Showtime and a LOF OF PEOPLE, were laughing at us thinking "Damn the balance here is so positive, let's keep them feed with these mismatches, they will still watch and we'll make MONEY..........

PD: That was just a grain of salt on the equatin, I didn't talk about how the whole staff build and delivers all this together, neither did I talk about a lot of specific people involved.

You see what's my point here?

[AntonTheMeh]

This Salka fight made these Haymon fighters start saying, "boxing is a business." Peterson said it. Garcia said it and I heard Broner for the first time in his career repeatedly saying the same thing. And Broner wants an 8 figure cheque if he's asked to fight Garcia.

How can SHO afford these fights when they can't even afford to pay artists for their posters?

it's always been a business. some of you here are under the impression that because you may know a little more, a little more, than the average bear, all these fights that you think should happen are supposed to go down like it's your own personal street fighter. this is not how it works. you don't have to like it, in some instances i don't like it, but i understand that it's part of the business.

[batista84]

u did a good job of overlooking all the opponents Canelo defended his belts against and the guy he beat to get a vacant belt, Sulaiman was 100 behind Canelo, ask Juan Manuel Marquez, that's why he put him real high in the rankings to earn a shot at a vacant title against sorry ass Matthew Hatton, once Canelo stepped up competition he hasn't had a great performance

No bro, actually I'm on spot with you, I like Garcia believe me, and Canelo was gifted a lot on his career, I'm not denying that, you think I was happy with Canelo beating up coming lightweights??? hell no, bull**** with that. Garcia worked harder than Canelo to get up in there, not debating that.

My point is that I want to see Garcia keep testings himself against top opposition, because I like his boxing. I don't like nor support mismatches. at the end of the day I'm a boxing fan.

PD: If you see on my Avatar a pic of Canelo is because I like his boxing style and his attitude of "I don't care what the promoters say, I want to fight the best" not because I think he's an elite fighter. to be honest to me Canelo is a solid guy not elite.

Imagine if Garcia, Mayweather, Pacquiao,Broner etc etc would fight the best opposition........................Boxing wins, fans wins, sponsors wins, everybody wins, that's my point.

[batista84]

The issue is not what is your opinion or what is my opinion or what is the opinion of the rest of the public. The issue is what is the law on the matter. The fact is that the laws of New York specifically provide that any person, including any corporation and the officers thereof, any physician, referee, judge, timekeeper, boxer, manager, trainer or second, who shall promote, conduct, give or participate in any sham or collusive boxing or sparring match or exhibition, shall be deprived of his license by the commission; and that no licensed promoting corporation or matchmaker shall knowingly engage in a course of conduct in which fights are arranged where one boxer has skills or experience significantly in excess of the other boxer so that a mismatch results with the potential of physical harm to the boxer. While the Garcia-Salka bout may not have been collusive, the same was, for all legal intents and purposes, a sham. The Garcia-Salka bout was legally a sham. At the same time, it is one wherein the skills or experience of one fighter, that is Garcia, was significantly in excess of the other, that is Salka, and that a mismatch resulted with the potential of physical harm to Salka. For this reason, all the persons who promoted, conducted or participated therein, including Garcia and Salka, are all liable under the laws of the State of New York. This is therefore not a matter of public opinion but a matter of law which must be looked into by the Attorney General of New York for possible civil and criminal action against all those responsible for the Garcia-Salka bout including Garcia and Salka themselves. So that bouts of the Garcia-Salka kind may not happen again, it is suggested that time be taken by all those interested to reform the sport of boxing to communicate with the Attorney General of the State of New York asking him to take civil and criminal actions against all those responsible for holding the Garcia-Salka bout based upon the boxing laws of the State of New York

^^ Great comment!

[The Big Dunn]

They Always do it under the table, listen, I'm not gonna go deeper in there because I'd have to explain a ton on you, there's literally a ton of people investing and paying on these things, but the thing squished goes like this.

TV Network decides to put on a show, let's say to get easy understanding here, they put on a boxing show.They present the estimated final product to the Sponsors, Sponsors are paying to TV Network that specific portion of the show to display their propaganda. Sponsors ask the "Boxing Show Head Director of that TV Network" how much people are expected to view that show. TV Network goes to the analysts and the specific people who are gonna give 2 estimate numbers, one the lower limit of that estimate and the other the upper, it's like an equation.

TV Networks are expected to deliver to the sponsor the magic number between those 2, if TV Network doesn't get to the minium they are on a negative balance, and they gotta pay a fee to the sponsor, if that kind of behavior talking about statistics keeps going on and on, Sponsor will not pay more to help that show. Of course by logic you know what will happen if that magic number surpasses the upper limit. Everyone will be happy.

So what happens here? first and foremost, TV will never get short on sponsors, there will be always one sponsor, the problem here is that when you start leaning to low budget and small enterprises, you will get less money than if you are sponsored by let's say a "Beer Worldwide Company", that culminates on lower numbers wich equals to = Low ranked boxers who doesn't expect to get paid more than $20,000 = Poor Boxing Shows.

So the "Disasterous thing here folks" is that Garcia vs Salka wasn't expected to be a high rated show, but what happened? an estimated of 800,000 - 850,000 view that show.

Now what does this mean to the people involved here? It means that after the show Haymon, Showtime and a LOF OF PEOPLE, were laughing at us thinking "Damn the balance here is so positive, let's keep them feed with these mismatches, they will still watch and we'll make MONEY..........

PD: That was just a grain of salt on the equatin, I didn't talk about how the whole staff build and delivers all this together, neither did I talk about a lot of specific people involved.

You see what's my point here?

You have suggested sponsors control programming, not individuals which was my exact point.

This has been going on since Tyson v Mcneely- networks realized you get ratings based on the "star" not the "quality of fight". So if Floyd, many, danny, GGG, kov etc are proven to get ratings, they will get prime slots, regardless of who they fight.

Meanwhile, quality fights more often than not, don't get the prime slots, especially if a quality fight risks the star losing because the network sees it as a risk to future ratings. Danny/Salak is not just no risk for Danny, its no risk for Sho. Kov/Cap is no risk for HBO.

Get my point?

[gbonafide]

They were giving out signed gloves at StubHub on Saturday. I wanted a Rod Salka glove but no dice. I guess he was still unconscious when they were getting those signed.